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<blockquote data-quote="Cavall" data-source="post: 5406503" data-attributes="member: 100498"><p>Youll have to forgive me for misunderstanding the point of your post, I hope you realize the point of mine was to embrace their caution with the reward of being right upon occassion.</p><p> </p><p>As for the spell list, you should talk to your group, you are right.  Read up the spells they are using, sounds like you are getting a little shafted there.</p><p> </p><p>But most of all it wasn't until you gave actual examples that I realized your problem.</p><p> </p><p>If I was a merchant and I had the people I was selling to suddenly cast magic upon me, I would call the guard.  How can you have a man who calls himself a "beguiler" be trusted if he is casting spells?</p><p> </p><p>I would also call upon the intergrity of the paladin.  He is taking the time to see if you are evil, and yet you have not done anything remotely preceived as evil.  In fact, you represent yourself as a good honest person.</p><p> </p><p>What I would REALLY do is raise the prices.  Casting spells on me while I sell goods is illegal.  Word will quickly spread over the area that they are witches.  No one will buy their goods, nor sell to them.  </p><p> </p><p>Its not like they can turn around and start actually USING magic to charm people either, for a couple reasons.  One, any merchant with the kind of money to supply an adventuring party will have guards, you can't charm them all and this would result in a conflict.  And two, more logically, the paladin can't stand by and let such a thing happen when it is really their fault in the first place.</p><p> </p><p>If its got somatic and verbal components, any merchant can easily see it as a spell.  You dont need detect magic, you just have to realize its not someone doing something to trade.  </p><p> </p><p>Ill get back to this more, in a bit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cavall, post: 5406503, member: 100498"] Youll have to forgive me for misunderstanding the point of your post, I hope you realize the point of mine was to embrace their caution with the reward of being right upon occassion. As for the spell list, you should talk to your group, you are right. Read up the spells they are using, sounds like you are getting a little shafted there. But most of all it wasn't until you gave actual examples that I realized your problem. If I was a merchant and I had the people I was selling to suddenly cast magic upon me, I would call the guard. How can you have a man who calls himself a "beguiler" be trusted if he is casting spells? I would also call upon the intergrity of the paladin. He is taking the time to see if you are evil, and yet you have not done anything remotely preceived as evil. In fact, you represent yourself as a good honest person. What I would REALLY do is raise the prices. Casting spells on me while I sell goods is illegal. Word will quickly spread over the area that they are witches. No one will buy their goods, nor sell to them. Its not like they can turn around and start actually USING magic to charm people either, for a couple reasons. One, any merchant with the kind of money to supply an adventuring party will have guards, you can't charm them all and this would result in a conflict. And two, more logically, the paladin can't stand by and let such a thing happen when it is really their fault in the first place. If its got somatic and verbal components, any merchant can easily see it as a spell. You dont need detect magic, you just have to realize its not someone doing something to trade. Ill get back to this more, in a bit. [/QUOTE]
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