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<blockquote data-quote="rushlight" data-source="post: 1958017" data-attributes="member: 3801"><p>The solution to this problem can actually be quite simple. What you want to do is make <em>her</em> be the one to desire not to cheat. You have to appeal to her sense of self.</p><p> </p><p>I'm going to make some assumptions. If any of these are wrong, just say so.</p><p> </p><p>1) You want to stop the cheating, not ban the player.</p><p>2) Everyone else is aware that there might be a problem, and is willing to help fix it.</p><p> </p><p>Given those two things, here's what I'd do. I'd call her over one day - alone. Inform her that you feel someone *else* (that's very important!) is cheating, but you don't want to say who. Ask her what she thinks about that. Is she opposed to cheating at the game table? Specifically ask her if she thinks it's wrong to cheat. If she says, "Sure, it's okay to cheat" then there will be no solution - she'll cheat forever.</p><p> </p><p>If, however, she says something like, "No! Cheating during the game is really bad!" then you've likely solved the problem. At this point, cognative dissonance will take over. She's put into her own mind - *by herself* - that cheating is wrong. To continue to cheat will mean acting in a way that is opposite to the way she now views herself. </p><p> </p><p>Finally, just to ice the cake, ask her to help you police the table for cheating - without revealing what she's doing. Since she'll be the one helping to "keep an eye out" then it's almost certain that she won't cheat herself. Ask her to suggest rolling on the table for everyone to see. When she presents the idea as her own, she'll also follow it. By investing her with your trust (and she'll clearly think you trust her) most normal people would feel very guilty abusing your trust blatently. That too will work in your favor. </p><p> </p><p>Of course, if she still cheats, then clearly she cares little for you, the game, or the trust that you've explicitly given her. In that case, I'd just boot her out - she'll never respect you or your game.</p><p> </p><p>You can also let everyone else in on what you're doing if you like. That way, they won't be upset if somehow she tells someone she's keeping an eye out for cheaters. Just ask them to play it cool for a few games, and after a while everything should settle down.</p><p> </p><p>Good luck!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rushlight, post: 1958017, member: 3801"] The solution to this problem can actually be quite simple. What you want to do is make [i]her[/i] be the one to desire not to cheat. You have to appeal to her sense of self. I'm going to make some assumptions. If any of these are wrong, just say so. 1) You want to stop the cheating, not ban the player. 2) Everyone else is aware that there might be a problem, and is willing to help fix it. Given those two things, here's what I'd do. I'd call her over one day - alone. Inform her that you feel someone *else* (that's very important!) is cheating, but you don't want to say who. Ask her what she thinks about that. Is she opposed to cheating at the game table? Specifically ask her if she thinks it's wrong to cheat. If she says, "Sure, it's okay to cheat" then there will be no solution - she'll cheat forever. If, however, she says something like, "No! Cheating during the game is really bad!" then you've likely solved the problem. At this point, cognative dissonance will take over. She's put into her own mind - *by herself* - that cheating is wrong. To continue to cheat will mean acting in a way that is opposite to the way she now views herself. Finally, just to ice the cake, ask her to help you police the table for cheating - without revealing what she's doing. Since she'll be the one helping to "keep an eye out" then it's almost certain that she won't cheat herself. Ask her to suggest rolling on the table for everyone to see. When she presents the idea as her own, she'll also follow it. By investing her with your trust (and she'll clearly think you trust her) most normal people would feel very guilty abusing your trust blatently. That too will work in your favor. Of course, if she still cheats, then clearly she cares little for you, the game, or the trust that you've explicitly given her. In that case, I'd just boot her out - she'll never respect you or your game. You can also let everyone else in on what you're doing if you like. That way, they won't be upset if somehow she tells someone she's keeping an eye out for cheaters. Just ask them to play it cool for a few games, and after a while everything should settle down. Good luck! [/QUOTE]
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