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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 3367830" data-attributes="member: 18701">Pretty much, everyone is saying that I can eliminate a lot of grief by just taking away all the many options I allowed them to use. As much as it dissapoints me, I think you're right and I'm going to have to do that.   :\ Here is what I'm thinking...please, as a player, tell me what you'd say if your DM limited options that you were allowed to use before.1. Nobody can use feats from any other book besides the PHB. Those who already chose feats from other sources can keep those feats.2. You can pick PrC's from other sources, but if it has a requirement from something other than the PHB or DMG, you cannot use that PrC. (Is this too limiting? Maybe it could be a judgement call.)3. The only book you can use spells from will be from the Spell Compendium. The limitations will be, no swift or immediate action spells, and you can't stack a spell from the SC with a spell from the PHB in order to boost a particular area (like stacking AC or attack bonuses). Arcane casters can keep the spells they already learned.4. I'm excempt from these rules. My NPC's can use anything from any book I choose. That will help me make my NPC's different from the PC's since I need the variety to keep encounters different.You may be right. The other powergamer though makes an effort not to tweak out every little thing about his character. He's also not helping others powergame their PC's. He's built an efficient PC, but he doesn't try to make him invincible and doesn't get upset when he learns he's not invincible. Which brings me to this....That describes my powergamer in question to a "T". I didn't even think about it until I read your post. Every single time "I" perform an action that they weren't expecting, he's the first one to grab the books to make sure I can do it. And when his PC gets screwed in combat and can't do anything, he starts to whine & his wife tells him to shutup. That's not surprising though because most players I've gamed with start whining when their PC is screwed  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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