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<blockquote data-quote="Ozmar" data-source="post: 3369073" data-attributes="member: 8021"><p>IMO, most of the suggestions you've received do not address the real problem, and thus, will not resolve it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's the crux of the issue. The player's mindset. You can't change that, and all your ideas about limiting options won't change it, either. The only person you can change is yourself. Similarly, the only people who can change their mindset is them, so you can either 1) change your expectations so their attitude doesn't bother you anymore, or 2) you can talk to them and hope that they are willing to and can change their attitudes, or 3) you can continue to have these problems. (Or some combination of these. Perhaps you can meet in some middle ground?)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Speaking as a self-confessed powergamer (or at least, as one who has absolutely no issue with your player's described behaviors)...</p><p></p><p>The first three suck, but as a player, I recognize the DM's authority, and I'd obey the rules.</p><p></p><p>The last one is really unfair, IMO. Of course the DM can break the rules, but its particularly galling when the DM comes right out and rubs the player's nose in this fact.</p><p></p><p>You might consider changing your own expectations about the player's behavior, particularly as none of the scenarios you describe seem to be especially disrupting. So what if the archer wants to use her bow all the time? That hardly seems like "power gaming", IMHO. (And don't forget that bows are particularly susceptible to sunder attempts, and arrows can be negated by a strong wind.) And as for wanting to visit your god to become eligible for a prestige class, that sounds like he's trying to work his character build ideas into the storyline. Give him some credit. He doesn't sound like a complete munchkin. He sounds like he's trying to have fun within your game.</p><p></p><p>I think you can both work together on this to achieve your goals. But it won't help if either of you have a "my way or the highway" type of attitude. If you're both willing to change, change is possible.</p><p></p><p>Ozmar the Therapist <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ozmar, post: 3369073, member: 8021"] IMO, most of the suggestions you've received do not address the real problem, and thus, will not resolve it. That's the crux of the issue. The player's mindset. You can't change that, and all your ideas about limiting options won't change it, either. The only person you can change is yourself. Similarly, the only people who can change their mindset is them, so you can either 1) change your expectations so their attitude doesn't bother you anymore, or 2) you can talk to them and hope that they are willing to and can change their attitudes, or 3) you can continue to have these problems. (Or some combination of these. Perhaps you can meet in some middle ground?) Speaking as a self-confessed powergamer (or at least, as one who has absolutely no issue with your player's described behaviors)... The first three suck, but as a player, I recognize the DM's authority, and I'd obey the rules. The last one is really unfair, IMO. Of course the DM can break the rules, but its particularly galling when the DM comes right out and rubs the player's nose in this fact. You might consider changing your own expectations about the player's behavior, particularly as none of the scenarios you describe seem to be especially disrupting. So what if the archer wants to use her bow all the time? That hardly seems like "power gaming", IMHO. (And don't forget that bows are particularly susceptible to sunder attempts, and arrows can be negated by a strong wind.) And as for wanting to visit your god to become eligible for a prestige class, that sounds like he's trying to work his character build ideas into the storyline. Give him some credit. He doesn't sound like a complete munchkin. He sounds like he's trying to have fun within your game. I think you can both work together on this to achieve your goals. But it won't help if either of you have a "my way or the highway" type of attitude. If you're both willing to change, change is possible. Ozmar the Therapist :D [/QUOTE]
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