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<blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 3369663" data-attributes="member: 18701">This is my beef exactly!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Yep, again, you are right on. Of course he focuses mainly on his PC, but he is completely gung-ho about working out ways to min-max the entire group. His spell selection isn't solely for his benefit, he uses buffs that benefits the other players a little too. So he min-maxes his PC and his wifes PC, gives suggestions for the other players, &amp; surprises me occasionally with party buffs. It just makes my job to challenge them so much harder.I just wish I could grab my books, write up an NPC with some nice abilities, and then use it in combat the best I can without having to think about, &quot;Ok, if I want to give Bob's PC a run for his money, I need to focus on touch attacks &amp; Reflex saves, because no NPC's at this level can hit his AC &amp; survive his attacks&quot;. I don't have to worry about challenging any other players. They are moderately hard to hit, and moderately hard to survive against. Just playing a normal combat will be challenging enough. And targeting a PC's weak spots can only be done so much without people thinking you're targeting a PC's weak spots&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oryan77, post: 3369663, member: 18701"] This is my beef exactly! :D Yep, again, you are right on. Of course he focuses mainly on his PC, but he is completely gung-ho about working out ways to min-max the entire group. His spell selection isn't solely for his benefit, he uses buffs that benefits the other players a little too. So he min-maxes his PC and his wifes PC, gives suggestions for the other players, & surprises me occasionally with party buffs. It just makes my job to challenge them so much harder. I just wish I could grab my books, write up an NPC with some nice abilities, and then use it in combat the best I can without having to think about, "Ok, if I want to give Bob's PC a run for his money, I need to focus on touch attacks & Reflex saves, because no NPC's at this level can hit his AC & survive his attacks". I don't have to worry about challenging any other players. They are moderately hard to hit, and moderately hard to survive against. Just playing a normal combat will be challenging enough. And targeting a PC's weak spots can only be done so much without people thinking you're targeting a PC's weak spots :p [/QUOTE]

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