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<blockquote data-quote="ExploderWizard" data-source="post: 4909408" data-attributes="member: 66434">This is generally the problem I have with scene setting, staging, and far too many assumptions about PC actions. The players are most satisfied when thier decisions matter to the overall situation. Does this mean that a high level skill monkey should just &quot;win&quot; by pushing his 1 trick button? No.&nbsp;Players who try and find creative ways to solve problems beyond killing and looting shouldn't be denied opportunities because the DM has set up a cool fight scene and wants the PC's embroiled in a certain situation.&nbsp;As a DM, I see a diplomacy attempt as an opportunity for me to do some roleplaying and see how fast the players can think on thier feet. I like the concept of &quot;everybody wants something&quot;. The diplomacy roll might get hostilities temporarily suspended and the NPCs/monsters to listen to offers but nobody gets something for nothing. Maybe the monsters have something that they really want and the PC's might not be seen passing by if said something were brought to them, wink wink. Now the players have a choice- do as instructed, leave, or initiate hostility. &nbsp;If combat cannot be won with a single roll than neither should diplomacy. Diplomacy does work wonders as a gateway to more options than charge.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="ExploderWizard, post: 4909408, member: 66434"] This is generally the problem I have with scene setting, staging, and far too many assumptions about PC actions. The players are most satisfied when thier decisions matter to the overall situation. Does this mean that a high level skill monkey should just "win" by pushing his 1 trick button? No. Players who try and find creative ways to solve problems beyond killing and looting shouldn't be denied opportunities because the DM has set up a cool fight scene and wants the PC's embroiled in a certain situation. As a DM, I see a diplomacy attempt as an opportunity for me to do some roleplaying and see how fast the players can think on thier feet. I like the concept of "everybody wants something". The diplomacy roll might get hostilities temporarily suspended and the NPCs/monsters to listen to offers but nobody gets something for nothing. Maybe the monsters have something that they really want and the PC's might not be seen passing by if said something were brought to them, wink wink. Now the players have a choice- do as instructed, leave, or initiate hostility. If combat cannot be won with a single roll than neither should diplomacy. Diplomacy does work wonders as a gateway to more options than charge.:D [/QUOTE]

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