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Message: <blockquote data-quote="roguerouge" data-source="post: 4553945" data-attributes="member: 13855">Well, if everyone's going to be MATURE about it, then I guess I'll be the one that offers some immature advice. If the DM won't bring them into line, and reasoning with them hasn't worked, only one thing will: retaliation. Just don't get caught. In combats, make sure to let them hang in the wind. Look busy doing something else, but always prioritize another task over saving them. When they're outnumbered, finish with the guy you're fighting with; after all, getting rid of enemies is good tactics. Take risky maneuvers to help them. When they're being grappled, don't rush to their rescue. Shoot arrows into the grapple and shrug your shoulders if you happen to hit them. Hey--you're trying! When targeting spells, be overly willing to trust in their ability to avoid damage; after all, their ability scores are so high you thought they'd be able to dodge. And you should slack: let them be the morons to face the BBEG in melee. Spend some time finding the perfect place to snipe from while these morons get their clock cleaned. Look: you're dealing with cheaters and bullies. You have to stand up to them. But if no one will stand up to them with you, don't walk away and don't get mad. Get even. This has been your Neutral Evil advice for the thread.</blockquote>