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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 5759504" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>[MENTION=2804]Dragonblade[/MENTION], not much to comment on your reply as I like and agree with everything you wrote. </p><p></p><p>A quick thought about the Vancian system vs. powers--why not both? The wizard can be a Vancian spellcaster and the sorcerer a more power-based or spontaneous caster...or something like that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've been advocating a "4E Revised edition", with at least a re-formatted, errata-ed, improved PHB. But that's already half way to 5E.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All of your suggestions are really good ones, but why not fold them into a 5E that is still loosely compatible with 4E in a similar way that 2E was with 1E?</p><p></p><p>One way to do 5E would be to ask the question, "If we were to re-do 4E with all that we've learned in the last four and a half years, what would we do?" They'd fix a bunch of stuff, tighten things up--along the lines of your suggestions. But then they'd ask, "And what is 4E Revised missing that we want to put in or change?" Do they wait another few years to do that or do they kill two birds with one stone and publish a new edition?</p><p></p><p>I say go for the new edition, but make it relatively backwards-compatible with 4E or, better yet, with a simple core/modular options approach that would be able to create a 4E-esque experience or a 3.5E-esque experience, or even an "Old School" experience.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I completely agree. Even if the Golarion products don't make as much profit as splats and adventures, it supports the rest of the line. Heck, this is the same with the print Dragon Magazine--it might have even lost money but it was a loss leader--something that you put out to drive other sales. I think a default, fully supported setting fulfills that purpose and is a major lack in 4E.</p><p></p><p>I love your other suggestions as well. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I fully agree. It is interesting to note that the Wayne Reynolds art for Paizo is more scene-oriented, at least the cover art. I think the good folks at Paizo "get it" in this regard.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, good luck with that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 5759504, member: 59082"] [MENTION=2804]Dragonblade[/MENTION], not much to comment on your reply as I like and agree with everything you wrote. A quick thought about the Vancian system vs. powers--why not both? The wizard can be a Vancian spellcaster and the sorcerer a more power-based or spontaneous caster...or something like that. I've been advocating a "4E Revised edition", with at least a re-formatted, errata-ed, improved PHB. But that's already half way to 5E. All of your suggestions are really good ones, but why not fold them into a 5E that is still loosely compatible with 4E in a similar way that 2E was with 1E? One way to do 5E would be to ask the question, "If we were to re-do 4E with all that we've learned in the last four and a half years, what would we do?" They'd fix a bunch of stuff, tighten things up--along the lines of your suggestions. But then they'd ask, "And what is 4E Revised missing that we want to put in or change?" Do they wait another few years to do that or do they kill two birds with one stone and publish a new edition? I say go for the new edition, but make it relatively backwards-compatible with 4E or, better yet, with a simple core/modular options approach that would be able to create a 4E-esque experience or a 3.5E-esque experience, or even an "Old School" experience. I completely agree. Even if the Golarion products don't make as much profit as splats and adventures, it supports the rest of the line. Heck, this is the same with the print Dragon Magazine--it might have even lost money but it was a loss leader--something that you put out to drive other sales. I think a default, fully supported setting fulfills that purpose and is a major lack in 4E. I love your other suggestions as well. I fully agree. It is interesting to note that the Wayne Reynolds art for Paizo is more scene-oriented, at least the cover art. I think the good folks at Paizo "get it" in this regard. Yeah, good luck with that. [/QUOTE]
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