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Message: <blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 5931043" data-attributes="member: 3400">3.5 was, as far as I was concerned, a prime example of project creep. There were some necessary changes - the ranger and bard both needed major fixes. There were other instances where too much was frontloaded into a number of classes. There were spells that needed fixing like the buffs, haste, harm, and a few others that didn't have bonus types properly affixed. Had they done all of that and not much more, I think 3.5 could have flown as a relatively minor patch with a new set of PHs being printed and a conversion document for those who didn't want to buy a new full book but wanted a list of the changes. A couple of the monster books released on the cusp of the two editions went this route - an update document was released updating the monsters in either the Fiend Folio or MM2 (I don't remember which) with new skill modifiers and damage reduction values... and little else was necessary.But 3.5 went WAY beyond that - in some good ways and in some bad. Huge numbers of spells got changes, many minor and unnecessary. Some spells got hit too much with a nerf bat (the buffs and invisibility). Weapon sizes were a significant change-up. Yet the DMG also got a reasonably nice reorganization to make it easier to find certain often-referenced elements and damage reduction got a nice improvement. But overall, the 3.0 to 3.5 change was pretty big as far as new editions of games go, and was my first warning that WotC might not have a good handle on how to proceed with further edition changes.The main issue is how much the game replaces yet remains backward compatible - or compatible with a little tweaking. Call of Cthulhu has undergone significant changes over the years - investigators get a LOT more skill points now than they did in CoC 1st edition. And some skills have changed. But those are easy to adjust to and adventures and supplements remain largely compatible (if possibly with NPCs a bit weaker by comparison), preserving a higher utility value for the collection of older products.</blockquote>

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