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<blockquote data-quote="jaelis" data-source="post: 7635586" data-attributes="member: 60210"><p>Only if you ignore the tenses of the verbs involved. I gather you feel OK with that, but I don't know why.</p><p></p><p>The text has the form "Something happens (present tense) if something happens (present tense)." Try substituting some other phrases in:</p><p></p><p>"You collect $10,000 if the hurricane destroys your home." Your insurance company will not pay you another $10k next month, even if your home is still destroyed.</p><p></p><p>"You get a ticket if an officer catches you speeding." You don't continue to automatically get a ticket every time you speed for the rest of your life.</p><p></p><p>"Joe gets mad if you beat him at Mario Kart." That doesn't imply Joe will be mad at you tomorrow, even if you haven't played Mario Kart again.</p><p></p><p>i can't think of an everyday example of that form where there is a clear implication the effect is ongoing. You would use the past perfect for that: "Something happens if something has happened."</p><p></p><p></p><p>Just to be clear, this is rules lawyering, and not particularly relevant to how I would play the game, or suggest anyone else should play it. (I put my 2 cents in on that early on in the thread.) But if you're going to argue about the text of the rules, then rules lawyering is what you are doing, and you should do it accurately.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jaelis, post: 7635586, member: 60210"] Only if you ignore the tenses of the verbs involved. I gather you feel OK with that, but I don't know why. The text has the form "Something happens (present tense) if something happens (present tense)." Try substituting some other phrases in: "You collect $10,000 if the hurricane destroys your home." Your insurance company will not pay you another $10k next month, even if your home is still destroyed. "You get a ticket if an officer catches you speeding." You don't continue to automatically get a ticket every time you speed for the rest of your life. "Joe gets mad if you beat him at Mario Kart." That doesn't imply Joe will be mad at you tomorrow, even if you haven't played Mario Kart again. i can't think of an everyday example of that form where there is a clear implication the effect is ongoing. You would use the past perfect for that: "Something happens if something has happened." Just to be clear, this is rules lawyering, and not particularly relevant to how I would play the game, or suggest anyone else should play it. (I put my 2 cents in on that early on in the thread.) But if you're going to argue about the text of the rules, then rules lawyering is what you are doing, and you should do it accurately. [/QUOTE]
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