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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7636409" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>I could have written that clearer. What I meant was that getting reduced by a vampire bite to 0 max HPs kills you. But having 0 max HPs from a vampire bite at a later point does not. There is no auto-kill at the later point just because you are at 0 max HPs, even if it had at a previous point been killed by a vampire. The "kill when reducing to 0 max HPs" from a vampire's bite is an effect right then. It is not a "and if you are raised a similar effect will auto-kill you again".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because it doesn't need to be considered. It's only a corner case if what you are putting out is true, but the rules don't support your view.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Zero HP is not death. Max HP zero is not death. Trying to argue a rules point while not following the rules is pointless.</p><p></p><p>Okay, we know zero HPs is not death. If you don't believe that they you are too ignorant of the rules to talk to since it happens all the time to PCs. Or trying to hard to win an argument on the internet.</p><p></p><p>Zero max HPs just does the same - caps HPs at zero. Which we have already determined is not death. You can be at zero and stable, or even zero and making death saves - neither are dead.</p><p></p><p>As added evidence (though my bet is you respond just to this and ignore the rest), the Vampire's bite needs to add in "The target dies if this effect reduces its hit point maximum to 0." Because that's not the normal effect.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7636409, member: 20564"] I could have written that clearer. What I meant was that getting reduced by a vampire bite to 0 max HPs kills you. But having 0 max HPs from a vampire bite at a later point does not. There is no auto-kill at the later point just because you are at 0 max HPs, even if it had at a previous point been killed by a vampire. The "kill when reducing to 0 max HPs" from a vampire's bite is an effect right then. It is not a "and if you are raised a similar effect will auto-kill you again". Because it doesn't need to be considered. It's only a corner case if what you are putting out is true, but the rules don't support your view. Zero HP is not death. Max HP zero is not death. Trying to argue a rules point while not following the rules is pointless. Okay, we know zero HPs is not death. If you don't believe that they you are too ignorant of the rules to talk to since it happens all the time to PCs. Or trying to hard to win an argument on the internet. Zero max HPs just does the same - caps HPs at zero. Which we have already determined is not death. You can be at zero and stable, or even zero and making death saves - neither are dead. As added evidence (though my bet is you respond just to this and ignore the rest), the Vampire's bite needs to add in "The target dies if this effect reduces its hit point maximum to 0." Because that's not the normal effect. [/QUOTE]
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