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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 155512" data-attributes="member: 284">It's an &quot;attack&quot; in the general sense, but it is not a&nbsp; &quot;melee attack action&quot; as defined by the PHB on page 122.Check the PHB, page 133.&nbsp; It explains the difference between doing a regular melee attack and a CDG on a helpless opponent.Exactly.&nbsp; Casting a spell is a magic action, not an attack action.&nbsp; (See the PHB, page 125)It's an attack in the general sense, but it's not an attack action.&nbsp;&nbsp; There is a difference there that you seem to be missing. Sanctuary protects against attacks in the general sense.&nbsp; Sanctuary would protect against a CDG, an attack spell, or a normal melee attack, even though only one of them are attack actions. Wrong.&nbsp; Two meanings are recognized in the rules.&nbsp;&nbsp; A CDG is a type of attack (in the general sense), but it is not a melee (or ranged) attack action.&nbsp; It's a Standard Action (when using Death Blow).&nbsp;&nbsp; More to the point, since it's a standard or full round action, you can't do it in place of the extra attack granted by Expert Tactician&nbsp; (which is what the question was really about).&nbsp; &nbsp; The chart on page 128 of the PHB lists the attacks that can substitute for a single melee attack.&nbsp; CDG is not one of them.You can try to play all the word games you like, but it really won't change the rules, no matter how hard you try.Since I actually know what I'm talking about, I have no fear of your silly latin phrases.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 155512, member: 284"] It's an "attack" in the general sense, but it is not a "melee attack action" as defined by the PHB on page 122. Check the PHB, page 133. It explains the difference between doing a regular melee attack and a CDG on a helpless opponent. [b][/b] Exactly. Casting a spell is a magic action, not an attack action. (See the PHB, page 125) [b][/b] It's an attack in the general sense, but it's not an attack action. There is a difference there that you seem to be missing. Sanctuary protects against attacks in the general sense. Sanctuary would protect against a CDG, an attack spell, or a normal melee attack, even though only one of them are attack actions. [b][/b] Wrong. Two meanings are recognized in the rules. A CDG is a type of attack (in the general sense), but it is not a melee (or ranged) attack action. It's a Standard Action (when using Death Blow). More to the point, since it's a standard or full round action, you can't do it in place of the extra attack granted by Expert Tactician (which is what the question was really about). The chart on page 128 of the PHB lists the attacks that can substitute for a single melee attack. CDG is not one of them. You can try to play all the word games you like, but it really won't change the rules, no matter how hard you try. Since I actually know what I'm talking about, I have no fear of your silly latin phrases. [/QUOTE]

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