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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fuindordm" data-source="post: 6438949" data-attributes="member: 5435">Polymorph is an excellent and versatile spell--you can use it to shut down an enemy or as a utility spell for the party. I'm fine with it being easy to dispel by "killing" the new form.However, a typical fantasy world also calls for a spell closer to 3E's Baleful Polymorph where the form is permanent, the HP of the new form are your own, and if you die in the new form then you die. This spell is more limited in use but significantly more powerful. It actually sounds pretty similar to the Binding spell in duration and difficulty of removing the spell; the difference being that the target is still free to move around and try to get the spell undone.So maybe 6th level? For extra fairy-tale goodness specify that the new form is always able to talk. If you cast it using a 7th level slot you can change the creature into a tiny animal, but not one that would die in its current environment (so no changing someone into a fish unless they're in a pond at the time--and no turning someone into a freshwater fish if they're in the ocean). If you cast using an 8th level slot you can change them into a plant (now they're stuck in place, and the spell really is comparable to Binding). If you cast using a 9th level slot then you can change them into any sort of object, such as a small statuette or a weapon--but this still doesn't prevent them from talking.</blockquote>