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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6865753" data-attributes="member: 996">Not a huge one, really.&nbsp; The common perception was 'only good in the woods' or couldn't handle dungeons, when, actually, the could be quite effective underground.&nbsp; There was a broadly-held perception of them, just as there was for the cleric, and, as with the cleric, it was fairly negative.&nbsp; Druids just weren't needed to get through 1st level, since they didn't start with Cure Light Wounds, the way Clerics did.&nbsp; Druids were unpopular, Clerics unpopular but mandatory.&nbsp; That's also the much more popular elf fighter/magic-user.&nbsp; The difference: you cast spells other than Cure Light Wounds.&nbsp; The Cleric's stigma was not a group-specific nor regional thing, it was pervasive, it was in what passed for community media at the time, the pages of The Dragon, and it drove all the extra customization and goodies 2e &amp; 3e heaped on the Cleric.&nbsp; The same is true, to a lesser extent, of 1e UA, 2e, 3e, 4e, Next &amp; 5e all trying to get the fighter up to snuff, or 3e &amp; 4e trying to rehabilitate the Bard into something you'd actually want to play (with 'Elan' of OotS fame illustrating how well that went), or 3e making the Rogue into a high-DPR class (which 4e &amp; 5e have stuck with).I think that says it all.Not relevant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6865753, member: 996"] Not a huge one, really. The common perception was 'only good in the woods' or couldn't handle dungeons, when, actually, the could be quite effective underground. There was a broadly-held perception of them, just as there was for the cleric, and, as with the cleric, it was fairly negative. Druids just weren't needed to get through 1st level, since they didn't start with Cure Light Wounds, the way Clerics did. Druids were unpopular, Clerics unpopular but mandatory. That's also the much more popular elf fighter/magic-user. The difference: you cast spells other than Cure Light Wounds. The Cleric's stigma was not a group-specific nor regional thing, it was pervasive, it was in what passed for community media at the time, the pages of The Dragon, and it drove all the extra customization and goodies 2e & 3e heaped on the Cleric. The same is true, to a lesser extent, of 1e UA, 2e, 3e, 4e, Next & 5e all trying to get the fighter up to snuff, or 3e & 4e trying to rehabilitate the Bard into something you'd actually want to play (with 'Elan' of OotS fame illustrating how well that went), or 3e making the Rogue into a high-DPR class (which 4e & 5e have stuck with). I think that says it all. Not relevant. [/QUOTE]

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