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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6865806" data-attributes="member: 996">They do.&nbsp; In the case of the popularity of clerics, though, that didn't matter much because the overall band-aid stereotype and negativity was there, regardless of your personal experience.&nbsp; Just like the Druid was overall quite unpopular, in spite of my personal experience. It's not really a build though, just a Cleric or Druid who doesn't cast a lot of Cure spells, but self-buffs.&nbsp; That was kinda the point the fellow who coined it was making:&nbsp; you can get all upset about 'abusive' power builds and broken non-core material, but the 3.x Cleric &amp; Druid already have that level of 'abusive power' brokedness out of the box.And, that was, indeed an overreaction to their past lack of popularity in face of their continued necessity.&nbsp; You could, though just the simple fact that a 1st level caster got more than one spell per day would seem to be the reaction, right there.&nbsp; And the wizard got the crossbow instead of just a dagger for low level plinking between casting his several spells.&nbsp; Etc.&nbsp;&nbsp; To this discussion, yes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6865806, member: 996"] They do. In the case of the popularity of clerics, though, that didn't matter much because the overall band-aid stereotype and negativity was there, regardless of your personal experience. Just like the Druid was overall quite unpopular, in spite of my personal experience. It's not really a build though, just a Cleric or Druid who doesn't cast a lot of Cure spells, but self-buffs. That was kinda the point the fellow who coined it was making: you can get all upset about 'abusive' power builds and broken non-core material, but the 3.x Cleric & Druid already have that level of 'abusive power' brokedness out of the box. And, that was, indeed an overreaction to their past lack of popularity in face of their continued necessity. You could, though just the simple fact that a 1st level caster got more than one spell per day would seem to be the reaction, right there. And the wizard got the crossbow instead of just a dagger for low level plinking between casting his several spells. Etc. To this discussion, yes. [/QUOTE]

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