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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5561721" data-attributes="member: 2067">Yeah...I don't have my books here, but even if it's not RAW, that's the way every 3e or 4e group I've been a part of plays, in practice. While that's only anecdotal evidence, I haven't heard about many groups doing the &quot;start from level 1&quot; thing, just because of how many wrenches it introduces into the design of adventures, challenges, monsters, encounters, and the like. Yeah, this matches my understanding of 1e as a &quot;high lethality&quot; game. In 4e, from my XP, hitting 5th level is just something that happens after playing for about half a year. It's not exactly earned; it's inevitable.Which can be a real problem for those who want to lean more on the game side of RPG, where there's a level of skill, luck, and challenge in achieving a &quot;high score&quot; (a high level). I'd be interesting to see a kind of game that brings that back to the fore now, where extra levels aren't expected, they are awarded, so that getting to 5th level is an accomplishment....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5561721, member: 2067"] Yeah...I don't have my books here, but even if it's not RAW, that's the way every 3e or 4e group I've been a part of plays, in practice. While that's only anecdotal evidence, I haven't heard about many groups doing the "start from level 1" thing, just because of how many wrenches it introduces into the design of adventures, challenges, monsters, encounters, and the like. Yeah, this matches my understanding of 1e as a "high lethality" game. In 4e, from my XP, hitting 5th level is just something that happens after playing for about half a year. It's not exactly earned; it's inevitable. Which can be a real problem for those who want to lean more on the [B]game[/B] side of RPG, where there's a level of skill, luck, and challenge in achieving a "high score" (a high level). I'd be interesting to see a kind of game that brings that back to the fore now, where extra levels aren't expected, they are awarded, so that getting to 5th level is an accomplishment.... [/QUOTE]

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