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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 712152" data-attributes="member: 4937">Dimwhit: Well, I concur with the sentiment, but mechanics wise, if you are going to give a fiat ruling on the damage from any given blow you might as well not have dice (or a game system for that matter).&nbsp; There just aren't any rules for called shots, criticals on falling, crippled limbs, ability damage from falling, etc.And there are rules for concussions and they specify that they don't happen unless the sum of damage and subdual damage is greater than the hit points of the creature.While I agree that the onus is on the DM to note when limitations in the game system cause the normal rules not to apply, I do think that it is up to the DM to provide in those cases some sort of non-arbitrary set of rules.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think it kinda silly to not worry about crippled limbs after a 60' fall (which is a very long ways and quite sufficient to kill anyone), and then suddenly when the system's limitations do blow your suspension of disbelief out of the water to then insist on them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 712152, member: 4937"] Dimwhit: Well, I concur with the sentiment, but mechanics wise, if you are going to give a fiat ruling on the damage from any given blow you might as well not have dice (or a game system for that matter). There just aren't any rules for called shots, criticals on falling, crippled limbs, ability damage from falling, etc. And there are rules for concussions and they specify that they don't happen unless the sum of damage and subdual damage is greater than the hit points of the creature. While I agree that the onus is on the DM to note when limitations in the game system cause the normal rules not to apply, I do think that it is up to the DM to provide in those cases some sort of non-arbitrary set of rules. I think it kinda silly to not worry about crippled limbs after a 60' fall (which is a very long ways and quite sufficient to kill anyone), and then suddenly when the system's limitations do blow your suspension of disbelief out of the water to then insist on them. [/QUOTE]

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