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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 1948197" data-attributes="member: 1757"><p>Wait a minute; you get UNHOLY TOUGHNESS?</p><p></p><p>You can *definitely* be a tank. Cha bonus to hp plus immunity to criticals and various other resistances is nothing to sneeze at. That said, the fighter/blackguard may not be your best bet. My own recommendation would be Clr15/Blk2 with the Trickery domain (which has lots of nice spells and gets you Hide for cheap) or, possibly better still, Clr6 (Destruction and Tyranny domains)/Dreadmaster 7/Blk2. The latter gets you two cohorts (choose a Fiend of Possession as one, and you'll be able to enhance your items for free!) and lots of Charisma-related abilities. Use Divine Metamagic to give yourself Persistent <em>divine power</em> and <em>righteous might</em>, and attack your enemies with a ferocious combo of Divine Might and your smite ability (from the Destruction domain). The cleric's lower HD are irrelevant, since you're undead, and your BAB is taken care of by <em>divine power</em>. Simple but deadly. You will easily out-tank the fighters due to buffs, and you really only need a high Charisma, with Wisdom just sufficient to cast your 8th-level spells. Best of all, you'll be able to heal yourself easily and do all sorts of nasty things. </p><p></p><p>Another option is to go the sorcerer/eldritch knight route. Not easy, but doable. Such a build would be Ftr1/Sor6/EK2/Blk2/EK6(8). This gets you 6th-level arcane spells (7th once you gain one more level), decent bonus feats, and Charisma to spellcasting, saves, and hp. Not bad!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 1948197, member: 1757"] Wait a minute; you get UNHOLY TOUGHNESS? You can *definitely* be a tank. Cha bonus to hp plus immunity to criticals and various other resistances is nothing to sneeze at. That said, the fighter/blackguard may not be your best bet. My own recommendation would be Clr15/Blk2 with the Trickery domain (which has lots of nice spells and gets you Hide for cheap) or, possibly better still, Clr6 (Destruction and Tyranny domains)/Dreadmaster 7/Blk2. The latter gets you two cohorts (choose a Fiend of Possession as one, and you'll be able to enhance your items for free!) and lots of Charisma-related abilities. Use Divine Metamagic to give yourself Persistent [i]divine power[/i] and [i]righteous might[/i], and attack your enemies with a ferocious combo of Divine Might and your smite ability (from the Destruction domain). The cleric's lower HD are irrelevant, since you're undead, and your BAB is taken care of by [i]divine power[/i]. Simple but deadly. You will easily out-tank the fighters due to buffs, and you really only need a high Charisma, with Wisdom just sufficient to cast your 8th-level spells. Best of all, you'll be able to heal yourself easily and do all sorts of nasty things. Another option is to go the sorcerer/eldritch knight route. Not easy, but doable. Such a build would be Ftr1/Sor6/EK2/Blk2/EK6(8). This gets you 6th-level arcane spells (7th once you gain one more level), decent bonus feats, and Charisma to spellcasting, saves, and hp. Not bad! [/QUOTE]
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