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<blockquote data-quote="thewok" data-source="post: 5430107" data-attributes="member: 60907"><p>I'm not missing that point at all. I'm just saying that unless you were playing the skirmish game, it was a waste of money to bother with boosters. It was definitely more cost-effective to go to ebay or whatever secondary site you favored and grab some singles.</p><p></p><p>The price wasn't even really the main issue. It was the chance of getting usable minis for the RP game. Had WotC packed up the common minis into theme packs or something, they could have set the price, rather than losing sales to the secondary market.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is not a theory to which I subscribe, as I believe you can have all three. I would even go so far as to say that Wizards' D&D line had none of them simultaneously.</p><p></p><p>I understand you mean a "wide selection," and I can say that WotC certainly had that. The problem was that the selction was <em>too</em> wide. Out of any one set, there were maybe four to 5 minis I'd want. And I'd want them in bulk.</p><p></p><p>Wizards has proven that it can do inexpensive, non-randomized minis with the board games. When I bought Castle Ravenloft, I not only got a great board game, but I also got 40 miniatures I can use (and currently am using) in my RP game. The game is $65, but that also includes the tiles, the cards, the scenarios, and so on. Let me reiterate: Forty miniatures for $65. It would cost $154 to get the same number of minis from the last D&D Miniatures set, and even then, I'd not be guaranteed to have three rat swarms, or three kobolds or three wraiths.</p><p></p><p>Are the Ravenloft minis painted? No. And I consider that something of a bonus, actually. The plastic also seems to be a higher quality than the standard minis, too, as it is less prone to warping in the packaging. I only got one mini reminiscent of Michael Jackson doing his lean in the Smooth Criminal video, rather than the 50% or so I'd get from my DDM boosters. But that may also be a result of the packaging.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thewok, post: 5430107, member: 60907"] I'm not missing that point at all. I'm just saying that unless you were playing the skirmish game, it was a waste of money to bother with boosters. It was definitely more cost-effective to go to ebay or whatever secondary site you favored and grab some singles. The price wasn't even really the main issue. It was the chance of getting usable minis for the RP game. Had WotC packed up the common minis into theme packs or something, they could have set the price, rather than losing sales to the secondary market. This is not a theory to which I subscribe, as I believe you can have all three. I would even go so far as to say that Wizards' D&D line had none of them simultaneously. I understand you mean a "wide selection," and I can say that WotC certainly had that. The problem was that the selction was [I]too[/I] wide. Out of any one set, there were maybe four to 5 minis I'd want. And I'd want them in bulk. Wizards has proven that it can do inexpensive, non-randomized minis with the board games. When I bought Castle Ravenloft, I not only got a great board game, but I also got 40 miniatures I can use (and currently am using) in my RP game. The game is $65, but that also includes the tiles, the cards, the scenarios, and so on. Let me reiterate: Forty miniatures for $65. It would cost $154 to get the same number of minis from the last D&D Miniatures set, and even then, I'd not be guaranteed to have three rat swarms, or three kobolds or three wraiths. Are the Ravenloft minis painted? No. And I consider that something of a bonus, actually. The plastic also seems to be a higher quality than the standard minis, too, as it is less prone to warping in the packaging. I only got one mini reminiscent of Michael Jackson doing his lean in the Smooth Criminal video, rather than the 50% or so I'd get from my DDM boosters. But that may also be a result of the packaging. [/QUOTE]
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