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<blockquote data-quote="jodyjohnson" data-source="post: 5430383" data-attributes="member: 5590"><p>I think the problem was that the secondary market sabotaged mini strategies for the near future.</p><p></p><p>I believe WotC underestimated how low of a margin online retailers would be willing to operate at. Between selling cases and boosters at 67% of msrp and pricing single miniatures at an average of MSRP per figure online sellers lowered the value expectation for miniatures below what they should be valued at to make WYSIWYG sets viable.</p><p></p><p>You ask for a 20 figure Goblin set or orc set but the price you'd want to pay is $1 per figure or less.</p><p></p><p>But look at the market MSRP:</p><p>Legendary Encounters: $2+ per figure. Most between $3.5 and $5.</p><p>Legend of Drizzt: $50 for 3 figures. 1 is a dragon, but the previous dragon was $40. So add $10 for 2 figures and a map.</p><p>D&D character packs: $11 for 3 figures.</p><p>Heroscape packs: $13 for 3 large or 6 medium.</p><p>Fantasy Flight Games Arkham Horror and City of Thieves prepaints: $3 each in a set, $4 each as individuals.</p><p></p><p>So our hypothetical 10 figure orc set is pushing $20 to $30. But the market valuation from the DDM/Mageknight secondary is $10 or less.</p><p></p><p>Until the secondary clears out of low priced minis and there is a buildup of demand I don't see common-grade prepaint sets as viable.</p><p></p><p>Dragons, beholders, giants and other high priced figures might work but not the common fodder.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jodyjohnson, post: 5430383, member: 5590"] I think the problem was that the secondary market sabotaged mini strategies for the near future. I believe WotC underestimated how low of a margin online retailers would be willing to operate at. Between selling cases and boosters at 67% of msrp and pricing single miniatures at an average of MSRP per figure online sellers lowered the value expectation for miniatures below what they should be valued at to make WYSIWYG sets viable. You ask for a 20 figure Goblin set or orc set but the price you'd want to pay is $1 per figure or less. But look at the market MSRP: Legendary Encounters: $2+ per figure. Most between $3.5 and $5. Legend of Drizzt: $50 for 3 figures. 1 is a dragon, but the previous dragon was $40. So add $10 for 2 figures and a map. D&D character packs: $11 for 3 figures. Heroscape packs: $13 for 3 large or 6 medium. Fantasy Flight Games Arkham Horror and City of Thieves prepaints: $3 each in a set, $4 each as individuals. So our hypothetical 10 figure orc set is pushing $20 to $30. But the market valuation from the DDM/Mageknight secondary is $10 or less. Until the secondary clears out of low priced minis and there is a buildup of demand I don't see common-grade prepaint sets as viable. Dragons, beholders, giants and other high priced figures might work but not the common fodder. [/QUOTE]
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