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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Corjay" data-source="post: 4349953" data-attributes="member: 52839">Dude. Step into Logic by Patrick J. Hurley. That is relying on the original use of the term in logic, which fits with my #2, but which shows a more purposeful intent. Also known psychologically as avoidance. The social term existed before the logic term. It is in our language not as a result of philosophy, but as a result of common idiom. Hurley states: "Begging the question occurs when an arguer uses some form of phraseology that tends to conceal the questionably true character of a key premise." I stated the social occurrence in #2, but the logic term by Hurley is derived from it, not visa versa. Logic books list it as a fallacy as long as it meets the intent of the arguer to avoid the question. However, An Introduction to Reasoning by Toulmin, Rieke, and Janik explains it as "when we make a claim and then argue on its behalf by advancing "grounds" whose meaning is simply equivelant to that of the original claim." (Italics theirs.) They then show three different logical fallacies that fall into that blanket (but don't give the names as I do here): Assertus Argumentum, Popularis Argumenum, and Circular Reasoning. Just because I stated loosely off the top of my head doesn't mean I was wrong. Just incomplete. Is this complete enough for you? I have more.The fact is, it is a common term, and therefore is NOT being misused, as common use determines its usage. To correct people every time they use it in a socially acceptable way is to show snobbish elitism to a degree that is not socially acceptable.Storyteller01: you used the term in an acceptable way. Ignore anyone that tells you otherwise.</blockquote>

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