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Debunking the myth there are no "heroes" in "A Song of Ice & Fire"
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<blockquote data-quote="King_Stannis" data-source="post: 648251" data-attributes="member: 324"><p>Well, again I'll disagree (hate to be so disagreeable with someone as willing to discuss the series as you, jd <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> - but as a wise man once said "it's the difference of opinion that makes horse races").</p><p></p><p>Stannis was indeed remorseful about Renly, but not because of his death per se. He was remorseful because he was forced into confronting his brother because of Renly's treachery. Yet he still loved him even in death. He tells Davos as much afterward, when they are riding alone and he recounts the story of how Renly pulled a peach from his vest when they met for their summit. He says something to the effect "I loved him, Davos, despite his treachery. I'll go to my grave thinking of that peach." Keep in mind Stannis is portrayed as a just man....THE just man. Renly was a traitor-in-arms who deserved and received death. Stannis' view is probably that his brother would not have been slain had he done his brotherly duty for Stannis - all part of R'hollar's master plan of which he is a pawn.</p><p></p><p>Stannis, while at times waivering, never wanted to give Edric Storm to Mel. At the best of times he actively spurned her wishes to sacrafice the boy, and in the worst of times he tells Davos that if he is forced to do it, it is because the boy MUST be killed or thousands of boys and girls just like him will equally suffer. He never takes any glee from the fact that the boy might have to be killed, and does everything he can to make sure the boy IS NOT killed (ie the leeches).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="King_Stannis, post: 648251, member: 324"] Well, again I'll disagree (hate to be so disagreeable with someone as willing to discuss the series as you, jd :) - but as a wise man once said "it's the difference of opinion that makes horse races"). Stannis was indeed remorseful about Renly, but not because of his death per se. He was remorseful because he was forced into confronting his brother because of Renly's treachery. Yet he still loved him even in death. He tells Davos as much afterward, when they are riding alone and he recounts the story of how Renly pulled a peach from his vest when they met for their summit. He says something to the effect "I loved him, Davos, despite his treachery. I'll go to my grave thinking of that peach." Keep in mind Stannis is portrayed as a just man....THE just man. Renly was a traitor-in-arms who deserved and received death. Stannis' view is probably that his brother would not have been slain had he done his brotherly duty for Stannis - all part of R'hollar's master plan of which he is a pawn. Stannis, while at times waivering, never wanted to give Edric Storm to Mel. At the best of times he actively spurned her wishes to sacrafice the boy, and in the worst of times he tells Davos that if he is forced to do it, it is because the boy MUST be killed or thousands of boys and girls just like him will equally suffer. He never takes any glee from the fact that the boy might have to be killed, and does everything he can to make sure the boy IS NOT killed (ie the leeches). [/QUOTE]
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