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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 5031318" data-attributes="member: 1139"><p>Things I didn't like in this update: changing abilities to work based on secondary stats instead of primary stats.</p><p></p><p>Main example is Pennant of Heaven's Armies, the invoker daily from DP. Clearly the bonus to defenses equal to Wisdom mod had to go. However, changing it to based on Int means that the power is now useless for any Con-based invokers who took it. Since the difference between primary and secondary attributes tends to be only around a +1 modifier, this causes problems with builds at little effect on balance for the builds with Int as a secondary stat.</p><p></p><p>If it's reasonable for Int-builds, it's reasonable for Con-builds, and the bonus didn't really need to be reduced by 1 once it didn't apply to defenses.</p><p></p><p>I hope this doesn't set a trend. They did the same with the Holy Emissary (DP)'s action point feature, but at least there you'd expect everyone who takes that path to have Cha secondary, so it won't cause the same issues. Was this Paragon Path really too good in any case?</p><p></p><p>Honored Foe (DP) was made to only work with a Paladin's marks. While other classes (Wardens come to mind) have an easy time marking multiple targets, the feat is above the power level for a feat on Paladins too. Having it only work once a round would have been the obvious solution (and would parallel the fix to Marked Scourge).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elric, post: 5031318, member: 1139"] Things I didn't like in this update: changing abilities to work based on secondary stats instead of primary stats. Main example is Pennant of Heaven's Armies, the invoker daily from DP. Clearly the bonus to defenses equal to Wisdom mod had to go. However, changing it to based on Int means that the power is now useless for any Con-based invokers who took it. Since the difference between primary and secondary attributes tends to be only around a +1 modifier, this causes problems with builds at little effect on balance for the builds with Int as a secondary stat. If it's reasonable for Int-builds, it's reasonable for Con-builds, and the bonus didn't really need to be reduced by 1 once it didn't apply to defenses. I hope this doesn't set a trend. They did the same with the Holy Emissary (DP)'s action point feature, but at least there you'd expect everyone who takes that path to have Cha secondary, so it won't cause the same issues. Was this Paragon Path really too good in any case? Honored Foe (DP) was made to only work with a Paladin's marks. While other classes (Wardens come to mind) have an easy time marking multiple targets, the feat is above the power level for a feat on Paladins too. Having it only work once a round would have been the obvious solution (and would parallel the fix to Marked Scourge). [/QUOTE]
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