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<blockquote data-quote="AngryMojo" data-source="post: 5332714" data-attributes="member: 83096"><p>As for the errata and essentials not being 4.5 thing goes...</p><p></p><p>I know it can look intimidating, but if you actually look at the 22 pages of errata on the PhB, very little of it is actually core rules. Most of the errata involves specific powers, feats or class abilities. Essentials isn't really 4.5 because it doesn't actually change very much at all. Most all of the changes are small tweaks to existing powers or class abilities, with no actual change to the guts of the game.</p><p></p><p>If you want the minimum amount required to run a game of 4e, I'd say you're looking at a $75 investment total, in the form of the Rules Compendium, the Dungeonmaster's Guide and a one-month subscription to DDI so you can have the full Character Builder, Monster Builder, and full downloads of Dungeon and Dragon for the past 2+ years. Playing is even less, all you really need is the Rules Compendium and a month of DDI, so $30 total.</p><p></p><p>The biggest advantage to Pathfinder is probably that it's an older game, and has far more time in development than 4e. Most of the little fiddly problems with Pathfinder were weeded out in the 8-year edition life-cycle of 3e. 4e, however, has a large amount of online tools to help you sift through rules updates and expansions. Given the two, I prefer 4e, but that's just me. Both are very strong games, and a blast with a good group.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AngryMojo, post: 5332714, member: 83096"] As for the errata and essentials not being 4.5 thing goes... I know it can look intimidating, but if you actually look at the 22 pages of errata on the PhB, very little of it is actually core rules. Most of the errata involves specific powers, feats or class abilities. Essentials isn't really 4.5 because it doesn't actually change very much at all. Most all of the changes are small tweaks to existing powers or class abilities, with no actual change to the guts of the game. If you want the minimum amount required to run a game of 4e, I'd say you're looking at a $75 investment total, in the form of the Rules Compendium, the Dungeonmaster's Guide and a one-month subscription to DDI so you can have the full Character Builder, Monster Builder, and full downloads of Dungeon and Dragon for the past 2+ years. Playing is even less, all you really need is the Rules Compendium and a month of DDI, so $30 total. The biggest advantage to Pathfinder is probably that it's an older game, and has far more time in development than 4e. Most of the little fiddly problems with Pathfinder were weeded out in the 8-year edition life-cycle of 3e. 4e, however, has a large amount of online tools to help you sift through rules updates and expansions. Given the two, I prefer 4e, but that's just me. Both are very strong games, and a blast with a good group. [/QUOTE]
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