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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 5332928" data-attributes="member: 59082">Short answer: It sounds like you're already leaning heavily towards Pathfinder, so I'd just go with it. You really can't go wrong--both are excellent games and aren't as different from each other in terms of what your roleplaying experience will be, despite what many say. Sure, the game systems are different, but both are fundamentally Dungeons & Dragons, and both are excellent games.That said, another way to go is to get the Pathfinder Core Rulebook and the 4E Players Handbook or Rules Compendium. Worst case scenario and you've "wasted" $30ish bucks on a game you won't play, but then you have the books to browse through for ideas. I play 4E but I buy Paizo books as well, both for enjoyment of reading and for mining ideas. I own the Core rulebook, the Gamemastery Guide, the Golarion World Book, and about fifteen Chronicles books. I don't use any of them in my game, but I do browse them for ideas and enjoy reading them.Two benefits from each to keep in mind:Pathfinder - You've got the entire wealth of 3.5 and the OGL to draw from--that is literally thousands of products, plus future support from Paizo, which is a very gamer-friendly company.D&D 4E - Continual support from WotC, plus the use of DDI if you want to pay the subscription ($10 gets you one month, within which you can download Character Builder and Monster Builder--which are about 90% of the value, imo, and then cancel and re-subscribe every six months or so for updates).Again, from what you've said and your general tone I'd just dive into Pathfinder. You won't be disappointed. But I wouldn't hesitate to get a 4E book or two just to get a sense of what it is like. Maybe get the Essentials Red Box, which will give you a nice feel for the game. To put it another way, rather than throwing 100% of your money into one game, I'd throw 80-90% into the game you will likely play (Pathfinder) and 10-20% into the game you won't but can draw ideas from and reading enjoyment (4E).</blockquote>

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