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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hong" data-source="post: 215141" data-attributes="member: 537">It's perfectly reasonable to compare feats and spells in this specific instance. Fighters are the feat guys; nearly all their specials come about by selecting feats. Without them, they're just warriors with a few extra hit points. Fighters also use those feats to kick booty, and in the example given, a specialist boom-spell wizard would use their spells to kick booty. I see no reason why effectiveness at kicking booty is such an irrational metric to use.Indeed, fighters got teh shaft. Pointing out the over-the-topness of 9th level spells is hardly an argument that the other classes shouldn't also be over-the-top at 17th character level. If you consider over-the-top spells to be such a bad thing, the obvious course of action is to ban them.Lightning Reflexes has no prereqs and can be taken at 1st level, while improved evasion is generally a 10th-12th level ability for those classes that get it. Your comparison is irrelevant.Since nobody was talking about PrCs in the first place, this is a strawman.This is perhaps the one valid point you've made. Wizards have historically been the most "one-shot" of the classes, which has had the unfortunate side-effect of them tending to hog the glory. (Why? Because no-one remembers the fights with the mooks, while everyone remembers the fight with the foozle. The wizard thus stays in the background in the nothing fights, and then kicks booty in the grand finale. An exaggeration, but you get the point.) By the same token, perhaps it isn't such a bad thing for fighters (and the other classes) to get their abilities beefed up for the grand finale, even if it means they can also use these abilities in the nothing fights.</blockquote>

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