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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SBMC" data-source="post: 2751034" data-attributes="member: 30040">Amature vs. Professionalerr...excuse me; exactly what are laws by the way; and why is it that people obey them most of the time. Oh ya I forgot! Because there is a consequence AFTER the law is broken. In your logic we should assume all business are always guilty and thus levy punishments prior to the crime being committed. You talk as if Corps all over the world are all dishonest – horse crap. You have offered no tangible proof of any statement you have made at all – not a single shred. You simply make a statement as if it is true with zero backup or references. Of course I am devoted – devoted to an open economy that allows things…such as the internet to be invented and created. I am a business person. You know; the type of people that help keep the economy moving along and such - the kind you work for or will at some point. The kind that will run the companies that sustain your retirement account and currently sustain your parents, uncles etc. Ya I am one of those radicals.Hypocrite.An opinion – relevance? Position of optimism; that MOST people are honest most of  the time? Hmmm seems so silly to me. After all we all know that on a daily basis 99% of all stop signs on the road are ignored and that people murder everyone all the time for the smallest slight…since of course you accuse corporations as a whole of such liberties.LOL (x100) [let me pick myself up off the floor – this is really pathetic]: this statement simply shows your complete (and I do mean complete) lack of knowledge regarding the subject you are arguing about. A company IS its financial statements! Everything it does comes out there! If Charles Ryan is talking about anything financial, even eluding to it – it is on the financials. If he is talking about anything the company does it is on the financials. Oh ya I forgot; everyone guilty of a crime always tells the truth on the stand...silly me. Oh ya and those that are actually innocent actually say they are guilty – silly me. Oh ya and prosecutors always take every case even with near zero evidence to the grand jury – just to waste everyone’s time for fun. I forgot about that. Oh and don’t forget that most corporations steal millions from everyone and are evil so we must prosecute them first.And exactly where does this SKU thing come from? That is not even a term; SKU is a bar code system; UNITS are what is used per product and per product line, and per brand name.Second; Charles Ryan stated that sales are positive; he will have to prove that – period. Say what you will – you are flat wrong.Because one cannot know the details until the financials are produced.Then the entire thread is moot. LOL again…Now lets just take the whole concept and abort it from the conversation since I am being constantly proven wrong. LOLI forgot; we are talking about something unrelated to corporate governance…then why the focus on ethical issues in a corp? Silly statement you made.Then let them get lawyers; and if Charles Ryan is full of it I assure you they will; whether it is made public or not. Not to mention that that is indeed a business risk of anyone licensing a product including the Windows software on your PC that you are using right now.How can one discuss ethics within and between organizations without discussing law??? You can but it is pointless. Ethics discussion without law are not ethics; that is a discussion regarding morals (I don’t want to have to dig up the old college textbooks to find the exact book and such (which is a Harvard product BTW)).They do – and when someone finds a loophole (and they will – just like any other criminal) another law will have to fill it. And if not then when it happens again and again the public gets wind and things change; life is not fair, neither is anything else. The nation runs on voters and money. When the voters outweigh the money things happen. LOL! Once again; re read your history.RBC – you have proof that they actually assisted in this fiasco? Funny that the FBI, SEC, NASD…need I go on…did not. Boy you must really be a good investigator to come up with that with no actual evidence in your own hands. RBC actually did not; they executed instructions on accounts owned by the company in question; that is it. If anyone says different they are a flat out liar.And where is RBC located?LOL once again – so that fact that any material error, intentional of not on any financial statement of any U.S. company will put the CFO behind bars and have his professional licenses revoked for life is certainly not an incentive to ensure what they sign off on is good. The fact that companies can face MILLIONS in fines for the slightest error; really come on now you again show that you know zilch about this.How in the hell is that a contradiction? Un warranted? That my expectations match that of the law? That their sales via reputation suffer with bad press? (Been proven hundreds upon hundreds of times – say it ain’t true; you would be a liar)Lets start off with exactly what the %$# do you want someone to say in his position? LOL once again – when you meet someone do you not put on your best face; this is laughable.</blockquote>

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