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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 2756419" data-attributes="member: 957">We are supposed to remember that it is PR spin.  Which is then instantly inferred by some to imply that it is flatly false.  That is where it gets out of whack.It is easy to understand that WotC will put a best face on their data.But a reasonable observer who pays attention to what they have said would fairly conclude that they are NOT suffering.  I can easily assume that "best ever" comments are PR and still conclude that this is far closer to the truth than the doom and gloomers insist we must believe.If a publisher tells me that THEY are having a hard time, then I'll believe them.  But I won't confuse their internal issues with the industry, regardless of how much they may wish there was no such distinction.On top of that, the distribution issue has been mentioned several times now.  Well, if that really is such a big deal (clearly it is) then that further implies that the hard times felt by some publishers are not fully related to market demand.  If a WotC or Mongoose can avoid this issue (perhaps they are even benefiting) then they have a leg up.It really is easy to find a middle ground.  It is less easy to convince some to let go of the all or nothing POV (or perhaps I should call it a nothing or nothing POV).</blockquote>