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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kinematics" data-source="post: 7349662" data-attributes="member: 6932123">So now that I did all that work, I find that I don't like the results.It assumes that an encounter with a total XP that could generate a CR opponent of a higher tier must necessarily be a one-mob encounter.  The instant you make it two mobs, the XP per mob drops back down to the current advancement tier.  When considering several enemies, there's also the XP multiplier that boosts each mob's effective XP.For example, suppose we have a level 4 party, on their last big fight before going to level 5.  Let's also say we're always going to keep these big fights at 'hard' level, not 'deadly', as the DMG numbers seem mostly tuned for hard fights to be the loot hoard generators.XP per player is at least 375, but less than 500, for total party XP of 1500 to 2000.  To get a CR5 fight, you can use 1800 XP on a single mob.If there's multiple mobs, you base the loot table on the highest CR creature. With 2 mobs, you could have a CR4+CR1, or a CR3+CR2.  Or progressively larger groups with smaller CR numbers.  But fundamentally, you cannot have a CR5 with more than one mob.  That also implies that getting tier 2 loot while the party is tier 1 is quite low.  Single-mob fights tend to be very do-or-die.  If you can counter the primary threat, they're fairly easy to take down.  If you can't, you die.So, let's revise tier 1 to not get any tier 2 loot.Next, tier 2.Level 8: 5600-8400 XPLevel 9: 6400-9600 XPLevel 10: 7600-11200 XPCR9: 5000 XPCR10: 5900 XPCR11: 7200 XPCR12: 8400 XPAgain, a single mob fits within the XP range, but... 2 mobs:CR9: 7500 XPCR10: 8850 XPCR11: 10800 XPCR12: 12600 XP3-6 mobs:CR9: 10000 XPCR10: 11800 XPCR11: 14400 XPCR12: 16800 XPTwo mobs with a CR11 lead would fit at level 10 (though even then, the second mob would cap at CR1), but three or more mobs prevents anything higher than CR9 from being used as a lead.So it's possible that you might have one tier 3 encounter while at tier 2, but it's pretty unlikely to get more than that.Next, tier 3.Level 14: 15200-22800 XPLevel 15: 17200-25600 XPLevel 16: 19200-28800 XP1 mob:CR15: 13000 XPCR16: 15000 XPCR17: 18000 XP2 mobs:CR15: 19500 XPCR16: 22500 XPCR17: 27000 XP3-6 mobs:CR15: 26000 XPCR16: 30000 XPCR17: 36000 XPYou can't have 3+ mobs with CR17 lead.  You can barely fit in 2 mobs with a CR17 lead, but the second mob would be near-worthless at this level.  You could do 1 mob with CR17-18.Once again, I will allow that you might have one above-tier treasure hoard at level 16, but that's about it.So, revised graphs:<img src="https://i.imgur.com/93xtUD5.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /><img src="https://i.imgur.com/Uxn9Tz8.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />And one comparing 5E with the estimated Pathfinder wealth levels, as provided by CapnZapp:<img src="https://i.imgur.com/3VGJEYE.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />And this is the spreadsheet number distribution:<img src="https://i.imgur.com/aAdfZbI.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />This seems much more workable in terms of having an appropriate amount of wealth at any given level within a tier, though the last level may get you a running start towards the next tier.</blockquote>

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