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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 2242905" data-attributes="member: 224">Sure.&nbsp; ...and that has exactly nothing to do with a 5-foot step.&nbsp; Nothing.Here's where your straw-man arguement falls apart.If we postulate two builds:
<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">A Ftr with thrown weapons, vs.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">a Ftr with a greatsword</li>
</ul>...and compare the damage of the two given full round attacks, the greatsword guy wins all the time.&nbsp; You argue that the 5-foot step allows the thrown weapon guy to step back and throw - which he can - but then the greatsword weilding guy can step up and full attack too.&nbsp; IOW: Once in melee range, the thrown guy will lose, 5-step or no.Moreover, as has been mentioned countless times, thrown weapon styles have major downsides.&nbsp; They are not uber......and really, the smack-down threads prove that time and again (Hulking Hurler and the meteorite of DOOM aside <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 2242905, member: 224"] Sure. ...and that has exactly [u]nothing[/u] to do with a 5-foot step. [b]Nothing.[/b] Here's where your straw-man arguement falls apart. If we postulate two builds:[list][*]A Ftr with thrown weapons, vs. [*]a Ftr with a greatsword[/list] ...and compare the damage of the two given full round attacks, the greatsword guy wins all the time. You argue that the 5-foot step allows the thrown weapon guy to step back and throw - which he can - but then the greatsword weilding guy can step up and full attack too. IOW: Once in melee range, the thrown guy will lose, 5-step or no. Moreover, as has been mentioned countless times, thrown weapon styles have [u]major[/u] downsides. They are not uber......and really, the smack-down threads prove that time and again (Hulking Hurler and the meteorite of DOOM aside ;) ). [/QUOTE]

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