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Defeating a Great Wyrm Force Dragon
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<blockquote data-quote="thompsja" data-source="post: 4593522" data-attributes="member: 39371"><p>I'd go for the gambing vorpal. We have a Ranger with favored enemy of dragon, who has a Keen Vorpal Scimitar of Speed in his primary hand, and a Keen Vorpal Kukri of Speed in his off-hand. He has used his feats in order to fully use his off-hand attacks. </p><p></p><p>Assuming that we can buff up his attack so that an AC 102 isn't that hard, he goes in with a Belt of Battle. He expends so that in one round, he will get two full-round actions.</p><p></p><p>He gets 20 attacks, and has crit threat of 30% on each attack. There is a virtual certainty that at least one attack will be crit threat. 8 attacks will be made at maximum bonus, and there is a 95% that one of those will crit. </p><p></p><p>Looking at the entry for Force Dragons, it does not appear that they are immune to critical hits.</p><p></p><p>A similar build can be made with a figher, who could get Weapon Supremancy. I will admit that I can't think of a way to get that much bonus off the top of my head without Epic Spells. But with an Artificer, we can create items fairly easily that grant Insight and Luck bonuses to weapons - should be possible. </p><p></p><p>I am also assuming that we are doing a hit-and-run - the Ranger is coming in from another plane and basically drops in on the dragon. Possible, but a dragon like that would have a throughly protected lair, with multiple wish spells used to make standard scry and fry tactics impossible. Probably made with lots and lots of Wall of Force spells, since he can easily fly through them and its enemies can't.</p><p></p><p>What did I miss?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thompsja, post: 4593522, member: 39371"] I'd go for the gambing vorpal. We have a Ranger with favored enemy of dragon, who has a Keen Vorpal Scimitar of Speed in his primary hand, and a Keen Vorpal Kukri of Speed in his off-hand. He has used his feats in order to fully use his off-hand attacks. Assuming that we can buff up his attack so that an AC 102 isn't that hard, he goes in with a Belt of Battle. He expends so that in one round, he will get two full-round actions. He gets 20 attacks, and has crit threat of 30% on each attack. There is a virtual certainty that at least one attack will be crit threat. 8 attacks will be made at maximum bonus, and there is a 95% that one of those will crit. Looking at the entry for Force Dragons, it does not appear that they are immune to critical hits. A similar build can be made with a figher, who could get Weapon Supremancy. I will admit that I can't think of a way to get that much bonus off the top of my head without Epic Spells. But with an Artificer, we can create items fairly easily that grant Insight and Luck bonuses to weapons - should be possible. I am also assuming that we are doing a hit-and-run - the Ranger is coming in from another plane and basically drops in on the dragon. Possible, but a dragon like that would have a throughly protected lair, with multiple wish spells used to make standard scry and fry tactics impossible. Probably made with lots and lots of Wall of Force spells, since he can easily fly through them and its enemies can't. What did I miss? [/QUOTE]
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