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Defenders aren't very good at defending?
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<blockquote data-quote="HealingAura" data-source="post: 4464285" data-attributes="member: 71433"><p>Lets see, what makes a fighter a good defender?</p><p>- The ability to absorb attacks. A fighter has a lot of HP and a lot of healing surges to use per a day. To improve the fighter's ability to absorb attacks, he gain access to powers like <strong><em>Boundless Endurance, Iron Warrior</em></strong> and <strong><em>No Surrender</em></strong>.</p><p>- The ability to draw enemies near him and away from his allies. A fighter gets Combat Challenge and Combat Superiority class features. To improve his ability to draw enemies near him, he gains access to powers like <strong><em>Come and Get It, Harrying Assault </em></strong>and<strong><em> Warrior's Urging</em></strong>.</p><p></p><p>If you improve only one of those, you'll end up with either a character that is hard to kill but doesn't defend his allies, or a character that attracts all the enemies to him but is killed easily.</p><p></p><p>In our game, we have a fighter, a ranger, a rogue and a wizard. I have noticed that the fighter neither kills enemies as easily as the strikers, nor does he deal with the many minions better than the wizard. So I think way to make a fighter really shine is to make him a good defender, and then take advantage of the fact that your character is going to be surrounded by enemies to use power like <strong><em>Sweeping Blow, Unyielding Avalanche</em></strong> and <em><strong>Cruel Reaper</strong></em>.</p><p></p><p>Notice that in order to be a good defender you don't have to have the best AC in the party.</p><p></p><p>I haven't seen a Paladin character being played in 4E, but I can see that he gets more healing powers than the fighter, in exchange for being worse at drawing enemies to him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HealingAura, post: 4464285, member: 71433"] Lets see, what makes a fighter a good defender? - The ability to absorb attacks. A fighter has a lot of HP and a lot of healing surges to use per a day. To improve the fighter's ability to absorb attacks, he gain access to powers like [B][I]Boundless Endurance, Iron Warrior[/I][/B] and [B][I]No Surrender[/I][/B]. - The ability to draw enemies near him and away from his allies. A fighter gets Combat Challenge and Combat Superiority class features. To improve his ability to draw enemies near him, he gains access to powers like [B][I]Come and Get It, Harrying Assault [/I][/B]and[B][I] Warrior's Urging[/I][/B]. If you improve only one of those, you'll end up with either a character that is hard to kill but doesn't defend his allies, or a character that attracts all the enemies to him but is killed easily. In our game, we have a fighter, a ranger, a rogue and a wizard. I have noticed that the fighter neither kills enemies as easily as the strikers, nor does he deal with the many minions better than the wizard. So I think way to make a fighter really shine is to make him a good defender, and then take advantage of the fact that your character is going to be surrounded by enemies to use power like [B][I]Sweeping Blow, Unyielding Avalanche[/I][/B] and [I][B]Cruel Reaper[/B][/I]. Notice that in order to be a good defender you don't have to have the best AC in the party. I haven't seen a Paladin character being played in 4E, but I can see that he gets more healing powers than the fighter, in exchange for being worse at drawing enemies to him. [/QUOTE]
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