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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mostholy2" data-source="post: 2240776" data-attributes="member: 17664">So to follow this thread up, I've looked through the v3.5 FAQ and didn't find anything specifically relating to fighting defensively.  However, since you've mentioned "vow of poverty", they clearly have a equivalent situation (but with an attack bonus instead of attack penalty).From the v3.5 FAQ it states, "The exalted strike bonus gain by a character who has taken Vow of Poverty applies only on attack and damage rolls.  Unless something is described as an attack roll or a damage roll, the bonus doesn't apply....The touch attack made to start a grapple is an attack roll (so the bonus would apply to this roll), but a grapple check is not an attack roll, and thus the bonus wouldn't apply to the grapple check.  Likewise, the rouch attack made to start a trip attack would gain the bonus, but the STr check you make to trip the defender is not an attack roll and wouldn't gain the bonus....To attempt a disarm attack or a sunder attack, you make an attack roll opposed by the defender's attack roll, so the exalted strike bonus would apply."If fighting defensively incurs an attack penalty,  I would rule that it would mimick the case of VoP attack bonus and only apply on any rolls described as "attack rolls" not strength or grapple rolls.  Therefore fighting defensively affects initial touch attacks for special attacks, the attack rolls for disarm and sunder, but does NOT affect grapple check or trip str. check rolls.</blockquote>

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