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<blockquote data-quote="Belegbeth" data-source="post: 1452762" data-attributes="member: 17228">Well, I DID say PSEUDO-Anime.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; Perhaps that was not the best description -- I should have stuck with &quot;cartoonish.&quot;&nbsp; (And as someone from the pre-Anime era, Anime all looks &quot;cartoonish&quot; to me...)Also, I should emphasized that I was talking about EARLY (pre-DL) 1E art.&nbsp; Elmore's art was not part of the original 1E books.&nbsp; (I don't think his covers replaced the originals until something like the 7th printing of the PH and DMG.&nbsp; Or was that Easley?&nbsp; I always confuse those two.&nbsp; My DMG and PH covers have the original &quot;Efreet&quot; and &quot;Temple&quot; scenes on them.)&nbsp; I have never been a fan of Elmore myself (and did not mention him in my post as an example).&nbsp; And there were many mediocre artists in the 1E books (DCS III comes to mind).In any case, my aesthetic point was that even if the 3E art is technically superior to 1E art overall, it is not really that distinctive.&nbsp; With the exception of J. Foster, all the artists appear to be emulating the same style.&nbsp; In contrast, artists like Otus, Trampier, and Dee were all quite distinctive.&nbsp; Sure you might not like them, but at least the early books were willing to include art that did not all strive to realize a single style.In short, the early books do not have a &quot;safe and slick&quot; aesthetic quality to them.&nbsp; Finally, I never denied that the faster leveling of 3E was intentional.&nbsp; So what?&nbsp; It still reflects &quot;power inflation.&quot;&nbsp; And like printing more money, it devalues each level gained.&nbsp; I am glad that there are optional rules for slower progress; I use them.&nbsp; But that does not change the fact that the &quot;baseline&quot; for level progress in 3E is much higher than 1E.This thread concerns the different &quot;feel&quot; of different DnD editions.&nbsp; This is one such difference.Your reply appears to assume that I am trying to slam 3E.&nbsp; I am not.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Belegbeth, post: 1452762, member: 17228"] Well, I DID say PSEUDO-Anime. ;) Perhaps that was not the best description -- I should have stuck with "cartoonish." (And as someone from the pre-Anime era, Anime all looks "cartoonish" to me...) Also, I should emphasized that I was talking about EARLY (pre-DL) 1E art. Elmore's art was not part of the original 1E books. (I don't think his covers replaced the originals until something like the 7th printing of the PH and DMG. Or was that Easley? I always confuse those two. My DMG and PH covers have the original "Efreet" and "Temple" scenes on them.) I have never been a fan of Elmore myself (and did not mention him in my post as an example). And there were many mediocre artists in the 1E books (DCS III comes to mind). In any case, my aesthetic point was that even if the 3E art is technically superior to 1E art overall, it is not really that distinctive. With the exception of J. Foster, all the artists appear to be emulating the same style. In contrast, artists like Otus, Trampier, and Dee were all quite distinctive. Sure you might not like them, but at least the early books were willing to include art that did not all strive to realize a single style. In short, the early books do not have a "safe and slick" aesthetic quality to them. Finally, I never denied that the faster leveling of 3E was intentional. So what? It still reflects "power inflation." And like printing more money, it devalues each level gained. I am glad that there are optional rules for slower progress; I use them. But that does not change the fact that the "baseline" for level progress in 3E is much higher than 1E. This thread concerns the different "feel" of different DnD editions. This is one such difference. Your reply appears to assume that I am trying to slam 3E. I am not. ;) [/QUOTE]

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