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<blockquote data-quote="Belegbeth" data-source="post: 1453835" data-attributes="member: 17228">Regarding (1): the fact that levelling up proceeds much more quickly in 3E than in 1E means that there will be a greater number of high level NPCs in 3E (if not for reasons of coherence, then simply to provide challenges for the high level PCs).&nbsp; This means more high level NPCs with &quot;a good deal of equipment.&quot;&nbsp; In short, quicker levels = more high level NPCs with magic items.Regarding (2): I never claimed that the rules regarding magic item costs, high level NPCs, etc. were equivalent in importance to HD (this is something that you have imaginatively projected onto my posts).&nbsp; But they do reflect something about the kinds of settings the rules designers think are most consistent with the rules as a whole (e.g. how common magic items *should be* in order to maintain &quot;balance&quot; etc.).&nbsp;&nbsp; And these guidelines *are* used by many people, especially those less experienced with RPGs.I agree for the most part with Reiella's claim that the &quot;feel&quot; of any game will be determined primarily by the group in question.&nbsp; My claim has simply been that, insofar as the rules have a significant influence on how most games are run, the differences between 1E and 3E rules -- especially with respect to the rates at which PCs progress in levels -- will, to a great extent, produce different kinds of games.Finally, I never meant my comments to be taken as an attack on the 3E rules.&nbsp; I certainly have never claimed that it is impossible to run a &quot;low power&quot; campaign with 3E (hell, I ran one for over a year, and it was great).&nbsp; And I have stated MANY times in this thread that, in many important respects, those rules are an improvement over earlier editions.&nbsp; My point has simply been that insofar as most people will run campaigns that (more or less) adhere to the rules as published, and that the rules as published allow for quicker level progression (and hence higher powered games), most 3E campaigns will be higher powered than 1E campaigns.&nbsp; Let's see -- yup, that IS a valid and sound argument.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Belegbeth, post: 1453835, member: 17228"] Regarding (1): the fact that levelling up proceeds much more quickly in 3E than in 1E means that there will be a greater number of high level NPCs in 3E (if not for reasons of coherence, then simply to provide challenges for the high level PCs). This means more high level NPCs with "a good deal of equipment." In short, quicker levels = more high level NPCs with magic items. Regarding (2): I never claimed that the rules regarding magic item costs, high level NPCs, etc. were equivalent in importance to HD (this is something that you have imaginatively projected onto my posts). But they do reflect something about the kinds of settings the rules designers think are most consistent with the rules as a whole (e.g. how common magic items *should be* in order to maintain "balance" etc.). And these guidelines *are* used by many people, especially those less experienced with RPGs. I agree for the most part with Reiella's claim that the "feel" of any game will be determined primarily by the group in question. My claim has simply been that, insofar as the rules have a significant influence on how most games are run, the differences between 1E and 3E rules -- especially with respect to the rates at which PCs progress in levels -- will, to a great extent, produce different kinds of games. Finally, I never meant my comments to be taken as an attack on the 3E rules. I certainly have never claimed that it is impossible to run a "low power" campaign with 3E (hell, I ran one for over a year, and it was great). And I have stated MANY times in this thread that, in many important respects, those rules are an improvement over earlier editions. My point has simply been that insofar as most people will run campaigns that (more or less) adhere to the rules as published, and that the rules as published allow for quicker level progression (and hence higher powered games), most 3E campaigns will be higher powered than 1E campaigns. Let's see -- yup, that IS a valid and sound argument. [/QUOTE]

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