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<blockquote data-quote="Galethorn" data-source="post: 1658017" data-attributes="member: 7888"><p>I tend to think of evil coming in four types;</p><p></p><p>(in order; from Least Harmful on Average to Most Harmful on Average)</p><p><strong>Category 1:</strong> Selfishness (self explanitory),</p><p></p><p><strong>Category 2:</strong> Good-Intentioned, AKA 'Loss of moral compass' (killing 100 street urchins to save a city of 10,000)</p><p></p><p><strong>Category 3:</strong> Hatred (and/or vengeance; self explanitory),</p><p></p><p>and, <drumroll></p><p></p><p><strong>Category 4:</strong> [Evil], AKA Pure Unadulterated Evil (destruction for its own sake, as well as killing/maiming weaker creatures because they <em>can</em>; could be seen as a highly concentrated version of #3, with 'everything' as the focus of the hate)</p><p></p><p>Most people in real life that <em>are</em> evil tend to be of the first three categories, with most being Category 1, most [Evil] leaders being a combination of 1 and 2, and lots of Terrorists (AKA radicals who protest with bombs instead of signs) being a combination of 2 and 3. The only Category 4 evil people I can think of are insane, children (and therefore unable to do much harm, despite their outlook), or characters in books and movies.</p><p></p><p>One other factor is that you can think of all people having all four types of evil in them, but each and every person supresses them to a different degree. In terms of D&D, a 'good' ranger might be selfless, have a flawless moral compass, and protect all creations of both nature and civilization, but they would have the flaw of a blind hatred of all orcs, and letting that hate ultimately be their undoing.</p><p></p><p>Generally, #3 is the only one that otherwise [Good] people can posess in any degree and not be truly tainted. #1 is probably the easiest to be redeemed from (per 'taintedness' quotient, or however you want to measure the degrees of each category), #2 being the next easiest, #3 being possible but difficult, and #4 being impossible.</p><p></p><p>Now, in D&D, Category 4 is my personal requirement for any creature with the [Evil] descriptor. If it's a Devil, they focus mostly on the killing/maiming of weaker beings, whereas Demons would focus more on breaking/burning things for the sake of breaking/burning things. Also, for Celestials, they can be totally 'perfect' in #1, 2, and 4, but have a deep, all-consuming hatred for evil, which in itself can cause much harm to innocents.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Galethorn, post: 1658017, member: 7888"] I tend to think of evil coming in four types; (in order; from Least Harmful on Average to Most Harmful on Average) [b]Category 1:[/b] Selfishness (self explanitory), [b]Category 2:[/b] Good-Intentioned, AKA 'Loss of moral compass' (killing 100 street urchins to save a city of 10,000) [b]Category 3:[/b] Hatred (and/or vengeance; self explanitory), and, <drumroll> [b]Category 4:[/b] [Evil], AKA Pure Unadulterated Evil (destruction for its own sake, as well as killing/maiming weaker creatures because they [i]can[/i]; could be seen as a highly concentrated version of #3, with 'everything' as the focus of the hate) Most people in real life that [i]are[/i] evil tend to be of the first three categories, with most being Category 1, most [Evil] leaders being a combination of 1 and 2, and lots of Terrorists (AKA radicals who protest with bombs instead of signs) being a combination of 2 and 3. The only Category 4 evil people I can think of are insane, children (and therefore unable to do much harm, despite their outlook), or characters in books and movies. One other factor is that you can think of all people having all four types of evil in them, but each and every person supresses them to a different degree. In terms of D&D, a 'good' ranger might be selfless, have a flawless moral compass, and protect all creations of both nature and civilization, but they would have the flaw of a blind hatred of all orcs, and letting that hate ultimately be their undoing. Generally, #3 is the only one that otherwise [Good] people can posess in any degree and not be truly tainted. #1 is probably the easiest to be redeemed from (per 'taintedness' quotient, or however you want to measure the degrees of each category), #2 being the next easiest, #3 being possible but difficult, and #4 being impossible. Now, in D&D, Category 4 is my personal requirement for any creature with the [Evil] descriptor. If it's a Devil, they focus mostly on the killing/maiming of weaker beings, whereas Demons would focus more on breaking/burning things for the sake of breaking/burning things. Also, for Celestials, they can be totally 'perfect' in #1, 2, and 4, but have a deep, all-consuming hatred for evil, which in itself can cause much harm to innocents. [/QUOTE]
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