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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Grumpy Celt" data-source="post: 1658205" data-attributes="member: 1019">The infliction of suffering upon something capable of perceiving that suffering.This is the definition used by Paul Carus in his book “History of Devil” and I find it withstands inquiry and is flexible enough to be as good – or better – a definition than any other I have encountered.There for it is not evil to eat an apple because – in as far as we are aware- the apple has no sense of self and is incapable of experiencing pain.However, it is evil – in so far as this definition is used – to kill and eat a deer, because while the deer while it might not possess the sense of self that is the hallmark of a human, the deer is capable of experiencing pain and suffering.Which is why the hunters of technologically unsophisticated cultures would often apologize to the animal that they had killed and thank it for its sacrifice.Equally, a war should be fought with sufficient dedication, ferocity, manpower and supplies to end the conflict as quickly and effectively as possible so as not to prolong the suffering of those involved, even if in so doing the temporary costs are increased.Ergo, a moral life is one in which an individual seeks to create as little suffering as possible and to further ameliorate the suffering they and others cause as much as possible.This is all somewhat simplistic but a sufficient groundwork for the above definition to function.Now, you will have to excuse me because I am hungry and I have some BABIES I am going to COOK and EAT!</blockquote>

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