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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AWizardInDallas" data-source="post: 3919603" data-attributes="member: 52605">Keep seeing?  Um, I only wrote it once.  I also didn't bring up the monster manual format for playing monsters as races.  Someone else did.  You're welcome to think it's an unreasonable assumption as that's your opinion.  I don't think it's that much of a stretch really and that's my opinion.  However, looking at "late 3.5" (as someone else here termed it, in other words, suggesting a progression not a cut over) the notes for playing monster races as characters in the most recent monster manuals suggest less notes for playing monsters as characters not more (i.e. when compared to earlier books).  WoTC is "streamlining" (as someone here also termed it) and doing so would run contrary to their design goal.By the way, the racial foot noting in the monster manual is decidedly inconvenient.  Once upon a time players were not supposed to read the monster manuals.  Now players virtually have to if they want to locate additional racial options, even for as mild a change as high elf to wood elf.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />  That simple option, my friends, used to be in the good old 1E PHB. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> D&D used to be fairly encyclopedic and it's not anymore; we should be seeing a convenient, generous catalog of core races not just a handful.  D&D has been around for over thirty years and still the PHB contains only a handful of races.  Why?  Supplements make money.Anyway my players and I have reached consensus and we won't be playing 4E as we dislike the changes were seeing in general.  I may entertain buying a third party D20 system with a better design philosophy and certainly more core race as well as class options.The good news is the stuff we like is about to get a whole lot cheeper. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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