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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3920025" data-attributes="member: 18280">People have always had a lot of problem making D&D do what they want it to do....Pick any day in the last several years, and you'll see that people have had lots of problems with how 3e plays right out of the box.  People have had a lot of solutions, too.Are you really saying that you'd rather throw up your hands in the air than simply tell me what it is that you are trying to prove?If you are trying to prove that low-magic 3e can't be done easily, then I'd say I can easily disprove that (and just have).  If you are trying to say that people tend to overcomplicate this, and fear tampering with 3e due to its "delicate balance" then you're right.  I don't think the balance is really all that delicate, and I think it is pretty darn easy to tamper with, but I agree that the perception is out there that it is a house of cards, ready to fall down with the first stiff breeze (i.e., houserule).The question is, what is it you are trying to prove?RC</blockquote>