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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 9381008" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Yep. All nouns are labels.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. Pome is a label, too. It isn't like there can't be multiple labels on the same thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, well, most of us don't think too much about genre classification, and then try to define genre by exclusion, rather than by inclusion.</p><p></p><p>Genre definitions (like "old school game") work best (imho) when you have a list of tropes that are considered common elements of the genre, and if a particular item under consideration has "enough" of the tropes, it is considered in the genre. And that's all.</p><p></p><p>Mind you, this mode of classification allows items under consideration to be members of <em>two</em> genres at the same time. You can have a movie that is both sci-fi action <em>and</em> a western (<em>Cowboys and Aliens</em> being an example). Having sci-fi elements doesn't <em>stop</em> you from being a Western. Or you could have a game that is both a board game, and a role-playing game (like, say, Gloomhaven).</p><p></p><p>Now, this can lead to a situation where a game could be considered <em>both</em> Old School and New School at the same time! I don't personally have a problem with that.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes folks try to classify things <em>out</em> of a group, to define by exclusion. This usually feels to me too much like trying to define Us and Them, the "in-group" and "out-group", the good and the bad, so I try to avoid it unless really necessary.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Meh. Have you tried just not worrying about what "many people" say? I find it works wonders.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 9381008, member: 177"] Yep. All nouns are labels. Sure. Pome is a label, too. It isn't like there can't be multiple labels on the same thing. Yes, well, most of us don't think too much about genre classification, and then try to define genre by exclusion, rather than by inclusion. Genre definitions (like "old school game") work best (imho) when you have a list of tropes that are considered common elements of the genre, and if a particular item under consideration has "enough" of the tropes, it is considered in the genre. And that's all. Mind you, this mode of classification allows items under consideration to be members of [I]two[/I] genres at the same time. You can have a movie that is both sci-fi action [I]and[/I] a western ([I]Cowboys and Aliens[/I] being an example). Having sci-fi elements doesn't [I]stop[/I] you from being a Western. Or you could have a game that is both a board game, and a role-playing game (like, say, Gloomhaven). Now, this can lead to a situation where a game could be considered [I]both[/I] Old School and New School at the same time! I don't personally have a problem with that. Sometimes folks try to classify things [I]out[/I] of a group, to define by exclusion. This usually feels to me too much like trying to define Us and Them, the "in-group" and "out-group", the good and the bad, so I try to avoid it unless really necessary. Meh. Have you tried just not worrying about what "many people" say? I find it works wonders. [/QUOTE]
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