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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 9382555" data-attributes="member: 2205">There's no such thing as new school. When the OSR started defining what old school was, they just called everything that wasn't that &quot;new school&quot; regardless of how disparate the source or philosophy behind the origin of any specific element. The reality, of course, is that &quot;old school&quot; is itself a relatively modern philosophy that is a reaction to all kinds of things that were happening in the hobby over decades, and it doesn't really accurately reflect how people played the game &quot;back in the day&quot; unless you're part of the BroSR specifically and ritualistically trying to recreate Gygax's specific gaming group or something. Anyone who came into the hobby by any other vector than the Wisconsin war gaming culture of the early 70s brought new school tendencies with them. Heck, I've heard people try and argue that the Thief class was the beginning of new school. So seriously, the very second publication for D&amp;D, written by Gygax himself in 1974, was the beginning of new school?Admittedly, I doubt most other people would agree with that, but still; it's clear that new school is a nonsensical term that means anything other than what the person saying it considers old school.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 9382555, member: 2205"] There's no such thing as new school. When the OSR started defining what old school was, they just called everything that wasn't that "new school" regardless of how disparate the source or philosophy behind the origin of any specific element. The reality, of course, is that "old school" is itself a relatively modern philosophy that is a reaction to all kinds of things that were happening in the hobby over decades, and it doesn't really accurately reflect how people played the game "back in the day" unless you're part of the BroSR specifically and ritualistically trying to recreate Gygax's specific gaming group or something. Anyone who came into the hobby by any other vector than the Wisconsin war gaming culture of the early 70s brought new school tendencies with them. Heck, I've heard people try and argue that the Thief class was the beginning of new school. So seriously, the very second publication for D&D, written by Gygax himself in 1974, was the beginning of new school? Admittedly, I doubt most other people would agree with that, but still; it's clear that new school is a nonsensical term that means anything other than what the person saying it considers old school. [/QUOTE]

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