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<blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 9386766" data-attributes="member: 2205"><p>I know that there's not a lot of agreement on what exactly is and isn't OSR but I think that most people would agree that fidelity to the older rulesets, i.e. retroclones is kind of a minimum baseline. See this (admittedly long) four part blog post for instance: <a href="https://osrsimulacrum.blogspot.com/2021/02/a-historical-look-at-osr-part-i.html?m=1" target="_blank">A Historical Look at the OSR — Part I</a></p><p></p><p>It's just that rulesets and playstyle are not necessarily tightly bound. My preferred rules aren't terribly different from OSR with some houserules from other games or editions, a kind of OSR adjacent ruleset if you will, but I don't really embrace all that much of the OSR playstyle. It's more like playing a fantasy X-files or Call of Cthulhu with a ruleset that's kind of like Shadowdark or Knave 2e that ignores anything related to dungeons, gp=xp, etc. </p><p></p><p>That's why I say I'm sympathetic to the OSR in a lot of ways, but I don't consider myself part of that movement at all. But just from a raw rules perspective, I'm closer to them than anything else. From a playstyle perspective, I rejected that playstyle way back in the 80s and have never second guessed that decision. It's hard to say you're OSR I believe unless you accept, even if not perfectly, both the retroclone rules and the OSR playstyle. </p><p></p><p>But yeah, you're right. The OSR as a term is tossed around pretty casually, and is sometimes little more than a marketing gimmick for any indie games that looks vaguely "oldish." Makes it difficult to discuss and be on the same page.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Desdichado, post: 9386766, member: 2205"] I know that there's not a lot of agreement on what exactly is and isn't OSR but I think that most people would agree that fidelity to the older rulesets, i.e. retroclones is kind of a minimum baseline. See this (admittedly long) four part blog post for instance: [URL="https://osrsimulacrum.blogspot.com/2021/02/a-historical-look-at-osr-part-i.html?m=1"]A Historical Look at the OSR — Part I[/URL] It's just that rulesets and playstyle are not necessarily tightly bound. My preferred rules aren't terribly different from OSR with some houserules from other games or editions, a kind of OSR adjacent ruleset if you will, but I don't really embrace all that much of the OSR playstyle. It's more like playing a fantasy X-files or Call of Cthulhu with a ruleset that's kind of like Shadowdark or Knave 2e that ignores anything related to dungeons, gp=xp, etc. That's why I say I'm sympathetic to the OSR in a lot of ways, but I don't consider myself part of that movement at all. But just from a raw rules perspective, I'm closer to them than anything else. From a playstyle perspective, I rejected that playstyle way back in the 80s and have never second guessed that decision. It's hard to say you're OSR I believe unless you accept, even if not perfectly, both the retroclone rules and the OSR playstyle. But yeah, you're right. The OSR as a term is tossed around pretty casually, and is sometimes little more than a marketing gimmick for any indie games that looks vaguely "oldish." Makes it difficult to discuss and be on the same page. [/QUOTE]
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