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<blockquote data-quote="Marius Delphus" data-source="post: 4889308" data-attributes="member: 447">AFAICT, &quot;old school&quot; seems to most reliably mean &quot;reminiscent of the game (or the same game) I was playing when I was younger.&quot; Sometimes it seems to mean &quot;reminiscent of a game (or the game itself) that isn't being published anymore.&quot;For my money, anything (originally) published before I graduated college in the early 90s is old school. I don't expect or need anyone to agree. Personally, I don't intend on using the term as a shorthand for some set of precepts about which I may or may not have an opinion, which I may or may not feel I've outgrown, or for which I may or may not be nostalgic.I'm amused that it's changed from a pejorative (&quot;Pshaw, that's so old school!&quot;) to a compliment (&quot;We're going to game old school!&quot;) and that folks are using the term to denote some kind of ineffable greatness: that despite the &quot;flaws&quot; of &quot;old school&quot; gaming, it's still something to be treasured, emulated, or otherwise recalled.I should point out that I don't dispute there are fond recollections to be had; I have plenty myself. &quot;Old school&quot; to me means a time when I had fewer responsibilities and (consequently) more free time to play D&amp;D with people who were (some of whom still are) good friends. If somehow D&amp;D 4E had been published in 1980, and AD&amp;D 1E was being published now, D&amp;D 4E would be &quot;old school&quot; to me.I also don't dispute that games getting the &quot;old school&quot; label by dint of their age or precepts are fun games. I played OD&amp;D in the late 70s and early 80s and had fun. I played AD&amp;D 1E and 2E in the 80s and 90s and had fun. As it happens, 1E and 2E were when I did most of my &quot;creative&quot; work, tinkering, and so forth, and when my most memorable campaigns and characters were born.What I do dispute is that a poll like this will have a major effect on the debate over what &quot;old school&quot; actually means (if it can be said to mean any one thing at all). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Marius Delphus, post: 4889308, member: 447"] AFAICT, "old school" seems to most reliably mean "reminiscent of the game (or the same game) I was playing when I was younger." Sometimes it seems to mean "reminiscent of a game (or the game itself) that isn't being published anymore." For my money, anything (originally) published before I graduated college in the early 90s is old school. I don't expect or need anyone to agree. Personally, I don't intend on using the term as a shorthand for some set of precepts about which I may or may not have an opinion, which I may or may not feel I've outgrown, or for which I may or may not be nostalgic. I'm amused that it's changed from a pejorative ("Pshaw, that's so [I]old school[/I]!") to a compliment ("We're going to game [I]old school[/I]!") and that folks are using the term to denote some kind of ineffable greatness: that despite the "flaws" of "old school" gaming, it's still something to be treasured, emulated, or otherwise recalled. I should point out that I don't dispute there are fond recollections to be had; I have plenty myself. "Old school" to me means a time when I had fewer responsibilities and (consequently) more free time to play D&D with people who were (some of whom still are) good friends. If somehow D&D 4E had been published in 1980, and AD&D 1E was being published now, D&D 4E would be "old school" to me. I also don't dispute that games getting the "old school" label by dint of their age or precepts are fun games. I played OD&D in the late 70s and early 80s and had fun. I played AD&D 1E and 2E in the 80s and 90s and had fun. As it happens, 1E and 2E were when I did most of my "creative" work, tinkering, and so forth, and when my most memorable campaigns and characters were born. What I do dispute is that a poll like this will have a major effect on the debate over what "old school" actually means (if it can be said to mean any one thing at all). :) [/QUOTE]

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