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<blockquote data-quote="wayne62682" data-source="post: 3034259" data-attributes="member: 40455">Now that I agree with (although I frequently break it...).&nbsp; However, to pose a query:&nbsp; Where is the line drawn?&nbsp; At what point does OOC knowledge (e.g. a monster's weakness) become IC knowledge?EX:&nbsp; Does a 5th level Fighter know what an Orc is without needing to roll Knowledge (Nature)?&nbsp; Note that the DC doesn't matter (assuming it would be very low to begin with), just would you call someone for metagaming if they saw a tusked humanoid with green-gray skin and immediatly said &quot;Hey, that's an orc.&quot;?&nbsp; What about a bugbear?&nbsp; An ogre?&nbsp; How about knowing a Troll is weak against fire at 5th level?&nbsp; What about 15th level?&nbsp; 20th level?&nbsp; Just what is it based on?&nbsp; If we're creating characters at 10th level, what am I assumed to know from x amount of time adventuring?&nbsp; I asked this on the WotC boards a while back and the answer I got was basically &quot;Nothing unless you take the appropriate Knowledge skill&quot;.On that subject, is something metagaming if you apply reasonable IC logic to the action?&nbsp; If I'm facing a Devil, is it metagaming to assume (given that your PC has some modicum of intelligence and that I know it's some kind of devil.. large and horned and appeared out of a gout of fire, for example) that if it came from the Nine Hells it's going to have resistance to fire?&nbsp; Is it metagaming to think that a good-aligned weapon (&quot;A blessed weapon&quot; to speak in-character) would damage it if it's supposed to be a being of pure evil?&nbsp; Is it metagaming to use Power Attack to up your damage output against something with DR vs. Slashing weapons on the (in-character) assumption that it's brittle and a good thwack will hurt it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wayne62682, post: 3034259, member: 40455"] Now that I agree with (although I frequently break it...). However, to pose a query: Where is the line drawn? At what point does OOC knowledge (e.g. a monster's weakness) become IC knowledge? EX: Does a 5th level Fighter know what an Orc is without needing to roll Knowledge (Nature)? Note that the DC doesn't matter (assuming it would be very low to begin with), just would you call someone for metagaming if they saw a tusked humanoid with green-gray skin and immediatly said "Hey, that's an orc."? What about a bugbear? An ogre? How about knowing a Troll is weak against fire at 5th level? What about 15th level? 20th level? Just what is it based on? If we're creating characters at 10th level, what am I assumed to know from x amount of time adventuring? I asked this on the WotC boards a while back and the answer I got was basically "Nothing unless you take the appropriate Knowledge skill". On that subject, is something metagaming if you apply reasonable IC logic to the action? If I'm facing a Devil, is it metagaming to assume (given that your PC has some modicum of intelligence and that I know it's some kind of devil.. large and horned and appeared out of a gout of fire, for example) that if it came from the Nine Hells it's going to have resistance to fire? Is it metagaming to think that a good-aligned weapon ("A blessed weapon" to speak in-character) would damage it if it's supposed to be a being of pure evil? Is it metagaming to use Power Attack to up your damage output against something with DR vs. Slashing weapons on the (in-character) assumption that it's brittle and a good thwack will hurt it? [/QUOTE]

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