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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 2646987" data-attributes="member: 707"><p>It's like you're only skimming my posts. You see certain key words and just fill in the blanks... No, I never stated that you conceded Deflect Arrows is fine. I stated that your problem with Deflect Arrows is one of believability, rather than one of balance. You've dropped all your balance arguments and stuck only to the single scenario describing a single problem: you think it's unreasonable to be able to automatically deflect an arrow while engaged in melee with three or more assailants. Believability, not balance.Yes, nobody is arguing against this point. I'm arguing that Deflect Arrows is not more powerful than Rapid Shot.Indigestion? There's no indigestion. We're discussing the Deflect Arrows feat, which you believe is unbalancing as written and I do not. The fact that it's your House Rule and not mine is obvious. We're discussing the merits of the RAW and the necessity (or lack thereof) of a House Rule. This should all be obvious. It's what we do here in the Rules forum.Your argument is hardly the plain, indisputable fact that my screen name is.I've seen your scenario and responded to it. See my post above. *sigh* You seem intent on ignoring my responses to your scenario and sighing a lot in exasperation.The only scenario I can envision in which this would be true is a party facing a dragon with an arrow of slaying. And if a party goes up against a dragon with an arrow of slaying as their best chance of beating him, they need to rethink their strategy. Nerfing a balanced feat in order to make this extreme example more likely is inappropriate, IMO.No, my point was to compare the 4th orc to the incoming arrow. i.e. in both cases there are three distracting orcs. What makes an incoming arrow being dodged more difficult to believe than that fourth orc being defended against? I wasn't suggesting a scenario in which there are 4 orcs and an incoming arrow. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Um...no. Where in the world are you getting this? Seriously. Where have I suggested that you're the only one who dislikes Deflect Arrows? This thread alone shows that there are more folks that just you who feel it needs to be changed. What bearing does that have on anything?*shrug* If the guy from <em>The Last Dragon</em> can do it, I'm going to assume it's doable. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 2646987, member: 707"] It's like you're only skimming my posts. You see certain key words and just fill in the blanks... No, I never stated that you conceded Deflect Arrows is fine. I stated that your problem with Deflect Arrows is one of believability, rather than one of balance. You've dropped all your balance arguments and stuck only to the single scenario describing a single problem: you think it's unreasonable to be able to automatically deflect an arrow while engaged in melee with three or more assailants. Believability, not balance.Yes, nobody is arguing against this point. I'm arguing that Deflect Arrows is not more powerful than Rapid Shot.Indigestion? There's no indigestion. We're discussing the Deflect Arrows feat, which you believe is unbalancing as written and I do not. The fact that it's your House Rule and not mine is obvious. We're discussing the merits of the RAW and the necessity (or lack thereof) of a House Rule. This should all be obvious. It's what we do here in the Rules forum.Your argument is hardly the plain, indisputable fact that my screen name is.I've seen your scenario and responded to it. See my post above. *sigh* You seem intent on ignoring my responses to your scenario and sighing a lot in exasperation.The only scenario I can envision in which this would be true is a party facing a dragon with an arrow of slaying. And if a party goes up against a dragon with an arrow of slaying as their best chance of beating him, they need to rethink their strategy. Nerfing a balanced feat in order to make this extreme example more likely is inappropriate, IMO.No, my point was to compare the 4th orc to the incoming arrow. i.e. in both cases there are three distracting orcs. What makes an incoming arrow being dodged more difficult to believe than that fourth orc being defended against? I wasn't suggesting a scenario in which there are 4 orcs and an incoming arrow. ;)Um...no. Where in the world are you getting this? Seriously. Where have I suggested that you're the only one who dislikes Deflect Arrows? This thread alone shows that there are more folks that just you who feel it needs to be changed. What bearing does that have on anything?*shrug* If the guy from [i]The Last Dragon[/i] can do it, I'm going to assume it's doable. :p [/QUOTE]
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