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<blockquote data-quote="c0mA" data-source="post: 2647805" data-attributes="member: 31392"><p>Let me fill in the blanks here...</p><p></p><p></p><p>The scenario is just that, a scenario. It's just one example and that's all it needs to be.</p><p>Here is where we have a difference of opinion. To me, the feat isn't believable in the RAW because it seams obsurd that a 1st level character could be engaged in melee and automatically deflect an arrow coming in @ 300'/second every round (which would be harder to see than a sword swung from an enemy in melee when the focus is on those melee combatants). This unbelievability (key part: 1st level character) is why it is unbalancing in our eyes. Perhaps the archer is hindered in only being able to take a standard action per round, or perhaps the archer decides to make a single attack when the combatant is currently focused on one of his melee targets. In 3.5e a combatant is usually able to defend all his sides regardless of the attack, so with Deflect Arrows, this archer is useless; our house rule gives that arrow a chance to hit especially when ranged attacks don't give flanking bonuses.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You are arguing with yourself, unless someone else has challenged this here and I missed it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not ignoring, just not seeing the relevance of your responses to the issue at hand. For instance, the response below...</p><p></p><p>You took the 1st level character with Deflect Arrows right out of the heart of my argument, making this scenario irrelevant to the discussion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I saw your point. I added the archer to show an even more unbelievable, unbalancing situation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So I guess I didn't get my objection to Deflect Arrows entirely based on just my personal believability threshold.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, totally irrelevant. Or do you think the hero of that movie, a virtual master of the martial arts, would equate to a 1st level monk?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="c0mA, post: 2647805, member: 31392"] Let me fill in the blanks here... The scenario is just that, a scenario. It's just one example and that's all it needs to be. Here is where we have a difference of opinion. To me, the feat isn't believable in the RAW because it seams obsurd that a 1st level character could be engaged in melee and automatically deflect an arrow coming in @ 300'/second every round (which would be harder to see than a sword swung from an enemy in melee when the focus is on those melee combatants). This unbelievability (key part: 1st level character) is why it is unbalancing in our eyes. Perhaps the archer is hindered in only being able to take a standard action per round, or perhaps the archer decides to make a single attack when the combatant is currently focused on one of his melee targets. In 3.5e a combatant is usually able to defend all his sides regardless of the attack, so with Deflect Arrows, this archer is useless; our house rule gives that arrow a chance to hit especially when ranged attacks don't give flanking bonuses. You are arguing with yourself, unless someone else has challenged this here and I missed it. Not ignoring, just not seeing the relevance of your responses to the issue at hand. For instance, the response below... You took the 1st level character with Deflect Arrows right out of the heart of my argument, making this scenario irrelevant to the discussion. I saw your point. I added the archer to show an even more unbelievable, unbalancing situation. So I guess I didn't get my objection to Deflect Arrows entirely based on just my personal believability threshold. Again, totally irrelevant. Or do you think the hero of that movie, a virtual master of the martial arts, would equate to a 1st level monk? [/QUOTE]
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