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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Goblyns Hoard" data-source="post: 1639387" data-attributes="member: 19970">Burrowing and ArmourThe 2 suggestion that I've seen posted that I think have the best opportunity are burrowing and armoured vehicles.Effectively split your force in 2 half burrowing along for a long term strategy, half continuing to support your convoys.  Ok three groups - the third being your siege forces.So 500 strong in each - could be a problem but them's the breaks.Team 1 - sieging - nice and easy stay dug in, don't do sorties, try and take out as many as possible with nasty tactics - catapulting dead animals into the fort, catapulting fire into the surrounding forests.  Above all else try and keep yourself a ring of cleared forest around your position - Salting the Earth as suggested shouuld help there - but lots of salt required (how often does it rain around here?)Team 2 - supplies and armour.  Obviously the priority is keeping the supplies moving.  That's got to take up a lot of your effort.  But deforestation has to remain part of your strategy and the area around the river is where you need to do that.  Here you need to go with the heavy armour approach - let the long ears come at you with bows - just keep a nice 5 cm thick piece of steel or wood between your orcs and everything else.  May I suggest squads working along the river with little mobile walls.  Your problem is keeping the river alive and working for you, but stopping the elves using the forest around it - and you  don't want to salt the earth as you affect your own water supply.  So don't get chop down trees - ring them.  With the ground coated in dead trees they will lose a lot of the cover they grant the elves, and fresh trees won't be able to work there way in.  Plus this kills the roots of the riverbank trees - but doesn't mess up their earth support which is keeping your river stable.EDIT - additional thought - once the trees are dead start hacking off the limbs!  Less cover and no platforms for the elves but keeps the structure of the forest and still stops fresh trees from encroaching.Team 3 - burrowing alongside the river.  Some will say that you risk the water coming into your tunnel, and to some extent you do.  But otters maintain riverside burrows - and there is some evidence of these having been around for generations (particularly thinking of the giant otters here).  I'm also not meaning right on the river bank - but about 20-30 meters in.  The tunnels don't have to be big enough to have armies marching through them - only big enough to put down rails and have relay teams that pull a low cart containing supplies to a way-station and transfer it to the next cart.  And the way stations are inhe cellars of the forts that you say you already have scattered along the river bank.  This gives you a supply line that is difficult to attack - it's protected by the earth and all the nice tree corpses that you've left around which give it armour from any attacks from above.  ANd as you have your forts in place already - you can divide team 3 up and start the tunnels from multiple places at once.Logistics - you need 80,000 metres of tunnel, and of track - is that possible?  You don't have to worry too much about cave-ins - you have a nice root structure above your head that will hold the earth in place (and contrary to popular belief the 'tap-root' is a myth.  OK you need to go a bit deeper, and will have to deal with problem roots occasionally.  You also need to work swiftly on getting the tress along the river bank ringed (I am presuming your trees suffer the normal effects of ringing and that the other trees can't remove their corpses.  Would probably be worth organising a Berlin Wall style event with all your forces concentrating their effort on that in one day long blitz - any elves that are in the area for an ambush that day may get or give you a nasty surprise but the job will be done before they have a chance to mobilise.Anyway hope these helpBTW what part of London are you in?The Hoard</blockquote>

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