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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jin" data-source="post: 1291996" data-attributes="member: 1484">Maybe I missed something when I worked this out & they are more much more powerful & I’m still missing it.  I think I did find a few places where I erred I my description.I’ll try check out AU’s champion (I think a friend has the book), but in the meantime, I’ll make another paladin comparison.---BAB:  Same.Saves:  Same.  (Worse if you don’t take a domain that grants Divine Grace)Skills:  Points are the same; sometimes you get more skills to dump points into, but you still have the same few points to spend.Spellcasting:  Progression is the same; having one higher-level spell that’s of the same level, gained at the same level, & has the same progression for times castable per week.  Do you think the warrior being able to choose their spell is too much freedom?Mount:  special mounts are the same, but some classes get a “special minion” instead that has the same basic power progression as the special mount.  I’m no realizing that using the term familiar & companion wasn’t correct.  I don’t want to give this class the powers that a familiar gives its master.  I just don’t see some deities granting their warriors a huge ol’ mount to ride around on.---So let’s say someone does choose Good & Law, which IMO would be a very poor choice as intended, but perhaps not explained the best in some parts.  1st level:  I guess you could smite evil & chaos.  That would be a whole lot of smiting going on.  Not that you could detect evil or chaos at all, but you could go around wasting your smites on non-obvious targets or same them for the really obvious balrog.2nd level:  Divine Grace.  And no, I wouldn’t let it stack.  Personally, I think this ability has always been too powerful, but I kept it in anyway to try & make the alignment domains worth taking.3rd level:  Aura of Courage.  I guess you could let them stack & either allow double the bonus/same range or same bonus/double the range.  This one isn’t too over powering if you do, but then you’d have 2 different standards of stacking & not stacking.  Tough call.  Thoughts?4th level:  You can either turn evil or chaotic outsiders.  I don’t see how either choice is more or less powerful than turning undead.  You can only do one or the other.4th level:  Standard paladin type spell progression starts.5th level:  Standard paladin type special mount appears.6th level:  You can choose magic circle against evil or chaos.  Better than remove disease IMO, but they are both 3rd level spells.7th level:  Only applicable if you skipped taking a spell at 6th level.  You can cast holy smite or order’s wrath.  You had to wait a level & the most you can ever cast them is 4 times/week.8th level:  Only applicable if you skipped a spell at 6th and 7th level.  You can cast dispel evil or chaos.  Does this clear up the power issues you were seeing at all?The class has a relatively small niche where it’s specialized & still has the same number of powers as the original paladin class.Thanks again for the feedback.</blockquote>

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