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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sodalis" data-source="post: 172971" data-attributes="member: 1791">not only can they empower a lvl 9 spell, but they have abilities (and spells) that are far beyond anything that we can imagine....imagine being able to turn the tide of battle as a lvl 9 miracle.  well, lvl 9 spells are mostly asking a divine being for assistance.  These are the guys you pray to for help, and they answer.  Imagine how powerful they are to be able to grant those things- you wish... ok- he is the one that grants the wishes.  what i am saying is that a lvl 9 spell, it doenst matter if he can cast it innate, quickened, still and silent with heightened maximized... and any other metamagic feat you can think of, a deity can always have a better spell, or ability that cannot be dealt with by mortals...and if you look at the spell power jump from lvl 1 to lvl 9, the effects are exponential- not scalar.  at lvl 1, you get magic missile and shield... big whoop.  At lvl 3, you get fireball- KABOOM, at lvl 9 you get wish and time stop- endgame.  Now think if that keeps scaling at that rate- at lvl 15, you get Global anhialation, at lvl 20, you get planar dominance, by lvl 25, you get insta wish- mega torturous death with a vanish from existence and wiped out from everyones memory and every one you know dies- including the peope that owes you money..... you get the picture...</blockquote>