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<blockquote data-quote="Dozen" data-source="post: 6005355" data-attributes="member: 6698275"><p>Since he lacks a deity, he's a paladin of cause. And if he betrays his cause, he loses his powers. Though 'acting mean' does not violate the paladin Code of Conduct, which I certainly didn't mean to say(neither did you, just making clear). I meant he's Good because he chose to be. Alignment isn't a shackle you have to abide by no matter what unless you're a god when it becomes free for all, it's more of a descriptor. If he changed his mind and wanted to be mean about it, he could. But Heironeous is one of the first gods. If he had a crippling weakness in the form of arrogance, some Devil would have converted him eons ago, trough force or manipulation. Unless he decided to change on his own accord before that. Still an Alignment change, no matter how you want to twist it.</p><p></p><p>The latter part I have to agree with, but why do you insist of even Good Deities acting despicable? I understand you can, but what's the point? Don't we have enough *beep*s already? D&D is, even with all the angels flying around, is already a lot darker than the real world. Do you guys play a horror campaign or something similar? </p><p>Besides, it doesn't make sense. I mean, seriously, if even the patrons of Heaven would be such pricks, every good person with decent mind stats would stop worshipping gods altogether. And they would be right. If the difference between Good deities and Evil deities is marketing, there is just as next to no difference between Heaven and Hell. The Seven Heavens would fall without mortal support of course, but no outsider would care for the D&D equalient of World War era Russia, working economy be damned. And our 'Russians', the angels? They help gods on their own accord. That is, in your world, they don't. So your so-called paladin, his few friends and a couple of misguided worshippers would eventually had to stand against the infinite horde of demons and worse, the politics of Hell, while the other remaining deities bicker, angels sigh over the pointlessness of their existence as the essence of their homeplane changes fuel while they save kittens or something just for the heck of it, and the mortals silently wait until their overlords decide which of them will abuse their souls for all eternity to know who they have to suck up to. I'm not having it, thanks.</p><p></p><p>But I guess it would be moot if the angels were on a different standing with deities. Or if fiends were made out of cheese, whatever. You want to homebrew a horrible, horrible world, or a world where reality is based on misconceptions because nobody thought out what would happen in the setting? Go right ahead! Just don't expect most people to like it. Or the gods, at the very least.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dozen, post: 6005355, member: 6698275"] Since he lacks a deity, he's a paladin of cause. And if he betrays his cause, he loses his powers. Though 'acting mean' does not violate the paladin Code of Conduct, which I certainly didn't mean to say(neither did you, just making clear). I meant he's Good because he chose to be. Alignment isn't a shackle you have to abide by no matter what unless you're a god when it becomes free for all, it's more of a descriptor. If he changed his mind and wanted to be mean about it, he could. But Heironeous is one of the first gods. If he had a crippling weakness in the form of arrogance, some Devil would have converted him eons ago, trough force or manipulation. Unless he decided to change on his own accord before that. Still an Alignment change, no matter how you want to twist it. The latter part I have to agree with, but why do you insist of even Good Deities acting despicable? I understand you can, but what's the point? Don't we have enough *beep*s already? D&D is, even with all the angels flying around, is already a lot darker than the real world. Do you guys play a horror campaign or something similar? Besides, it doesn't make sense. I mean, seriously, if even the patrons of Heaven would be such pricks, every good person with decent mind stats would stop worshipping gods altogether. And they would be right. If the difference between Good deities and Evil deities is marketing, there is just as next to no difference between Heaven and Hell. The Seven Heavens would fall without mortal support of course, but no outsider would care for the D&D equalient of World War era Russia, working economy be damned. And our 'Russians', the angels? They help gods on their own accord. That is, in your world, they don't. So your so-called paladin, his few friends and a couple of misguided worshippers would eventually had to stand against the infinite horde of demons and worse, the politics of Hell, while the other remaining deities bicker, angels sigh over the pointlessness of their existence as the essence of their homeplane changes fuel while they save kittens or something just for the heck of it, and the mortals silently wait until their overlords decide which of them will abuse their souls for all eternity to know who they have to suck up to. I'm not having it, thanks. But I guess it would be moot if the angels were on a different standing with deities. Or if fiends were made out of cheese, whatever. You want to homebrew a horrible, horrible world, or a world where reality is based on misconceptions because nobody thought out what would happen in the setting? Go right ahead! Just don't expect most people to like it. Or the gods, at the very least. [/QUOTE]
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